General Chat

I am not taken in Joy by no means everyone has the right to a voice, I am no great fan of his, IMHO and no has to agree with me I think the TV doc stinks of a people making a few bob.

Each to our own Madge
But these type of people are very clever at what they do
Thats why they get away with it for so long

Look how long Jimmy Savile got away with it

'Charitable Workers' have, inadvertently or otherwise, been besmirched by one comment on this thread.

"Careful now"! :-|

Interesting ‘Opinion’ piece by the programme’s director in The Guardian.
https://tinyurl.com/y46fheeb

Although we haven’t watched the programme, we vaguely remember the 2 previous court cases. At the time we thought that something fishy was going on.
The 1993 civil case was settled out of court with $25 million paid to his accuser. Why do that if MJ was innocent?

why accept it instead of justice for your child, had always played heavily on my mind

That’s one reason for thinking it’s ‘fishy’. Were they only in it for the money, or was the evidence too weak to take to criminal justice?

In either scenario, ‘Mud Sticks’.

100% agree Det but then why pay them off ? The damage or the truth as either may be is then already out there the allegations have been made very public, its the matter of the pay off that sticks in claw and it has done for years.

Joy, I think, according to docs JWS paid a few off and them as his fame grew and he was earning huge sums for Charity and had amassed a circle of influential friends
he became almost "untouchable" even if some despised him.

Money: the aphrodisiac that never lets you down - until it does, as Donald Trump & others realise.

Its the pay off That makes me doubt he was innocent

Twenty five million dollars :-0 he was expensive !!

Way back I recorded the interview with Martin Bashir and MJ and have found and watched it again...….

""""MB----Do you not undertand why some people would question your having children to sleep in your bed,"""

""""MJ-----I play with them,we watch movies,I hug them, tuck them in and then we go to sleep..nothing sexual,,,,,,,,every child needs to be loved and be shown love.."""".…...all while hes jigging Blanket on his knee while trying to give the child a bottle...….with a cover over its head,,,,as have the other two children,,,,,,

Later in the interview,hes got a boy whos a cancer victim,sittling beside him and MJ all the time is holding and squeezing the boys hand.,the boy is in awe of MJ of course hes his idol and says MJ has been nothing but kind to him, and he loves N-Land…...

This took place after the Jordan Chandler case.