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JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 27 Apr 2023 20:57

And all with no cellphone, Sylvia!

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 27 Apr 2023 23:29

True, JoonieC

Way back in 1970!

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 28 Apr 2023 18:17

I got sidetracked the other day by work, and I'd been looking and looking to find a photo of the Medway catalpa actually in bloom. Hard to come by, but I found a magnificent one:

https://www.picturesofengland.com/England/Kent/Rochester/pictures/1196991

Very glad to hear that it was salvaged!

I'm going to change my avatar now from the Hoare in Cornwall thing to a pic of the side of my house ... before I had my not overly handy guy tear down the trumpet vine last year. It grows about 100 miles a year and was invading the eavestroughs and covering my windows. It and the Rose of Sharon bushes were here when we bought, but I look at them as legacies from my Gramma. The whole side of her house was covered in trumpet vine, which at the time was a bit of a horicultural rarity (climate change makes it less so), and which my Grampa hated for all the reasons I now understand, plus he was the one who had to go up the ladder to deal with it. And she had a big mauve Rose of Sharon in the back yard.

For some reason, I call it Rose of ShaRon, not just Sharrun like the name. (Like saying ReCord not Reccurd.) My sister laughs at me. Is there a reason I do that?? Have I mentioned that after a moderate case of covid in early March 2020, she has since been hospitalized and had multiple treatments for lung problems and now has lost nearly half her lung capacity, suffers extreme fatigue etc., and sometimes needs to use a walker ...

Speaking of eavestroughs: Sylvia -- how peeved are you by the rash of USAmerican home improvement commercials invading our televisions with their yammering about "gutters"? Gutters are what run along the sides of roads. My house has no gutters, ta very much. But there goes one more bit of Canadian English.

... My house is sideways. Better find a better pic ...

Florence61

Florence61 Report 28 Apr 2023 18:37

In England, I called it guttering, the drain pipes for catching the water running on the roof.
Here in Scotland, they call them the "Waterones"
Yes gutter are drains at the side of the pavements.

Rambling

Rambling Report 28 Apr 2023 18:45

JoonieCloonie, lovely picture of the catalpa.

I'm sorry to hear about your sister's ongoing after effects of covid. I read a lot of reports from people who had "mild" covid but have long term health issues now. Hateful thing. My neighbour's husband died, only in his early 50s.

I had not heard of "eavestroughs" ,makes perfect sense though.

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 28 Apr 2023 19:22

My goodness, it's a Canadianism? Most of these things I just assume are ours from Mother England, with the US doing its best to colonize us. In fact it's the US ones holding onto their own colonial past. :-)

When my father first visited me in Ottawa many moons ago, he remarked on two things from his drives around town.

The first was that none of the houses had eavestroughs -- which I later realized, as the owner of a home with no eavestroughs, was because of the enormous snow and ice load that could build up on the roofs (and occasionally actually kill someone standing too close when it fell), against which a mere eavestrough wouldn't stand a chance.

The second was the number of people driving around with one headlight (headlamp?), which would never have been tolerated where we were from.

My neighbour and I shared a driveway. That was fine when I didn't drive, and even after I got my first vehicle, a little 4WD Suzuki, since I could burrow my way into the back yard parking space relatively well. Not so good when I got a light-as-air Toyota minivan. The neighbour and I both parked in the driveway, usually me first so he could get in and out. I went out one February day and started the van, and found my driver's side windshield wiper gone. I got out and discovered what had happened. An iceberg (about 3 feet by 1.5 feet, at least) had fallen off the neighbour's roof, glanced off the wiper, and put a big dent in the slopey hood (bonnet!).

It cost a bundle to repair, even though I didn't actually care about the dent, I had a deductible to pay, and my deductible went up. And the @#$% neighbour didn't offer to pay any of it. I was quite amazed when I asked my insurance company how to go about claiming against next door's house insurance for the damage, and they told me my car insurance had to cover it. Car was sitting still on my property and an iceberg fell on it due to my neighbour's non-vehicle-related negligence, and I paid?!? Insurance, it gets you coming and going. Well, at least it didn't hit one of my cats.

Ah yes, cats. Then there was the time the across the street neighbours came looking for their cat Joey, who they were afraid had been on my back deck when a huge load of snow fell off the second floor deck roof, because they could see his little footprints going, but not coming back. We immediately set about hunting through two feet of heavy wet snow with shovels and poles, but found no cat. They thought he had gone under the deck, but I couldn't see where he might have been able to do that.

Then I had a brilliant idea. Joey and one of my cats hated each other; they had destroyed the neighbours' basement window screen fighting through it, or, as the neighbour said, talking to each other. (Yeah: I'm gonna rip your throat out! Well step outside and say that! -- that was after Joey had to be kept in because he'd been diagnosed with FIV, as one of my other cats later was.) Italian households are not known for being cat fanciers; these neighbours doted on Joey, whom they had found and first tried to offer me. Daughter at door: Here's a cat. Uh huh ... I have 5 and you have none. He's yours. The mother neighbour later took in some feral kittens and homed them with her aged parents across the street. I singlehandedly converted three generations. :-)

So my idea: let Tab out and see whether he'd find Joey. Tab came out the front door, headed straight down the driveway (I suppose he had been watching out the back door and needed to know what treasure we were hunting), went straight under the deck, and Joey came straight out.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 28 Apr 2023 20:59

I grew up in Lancashire, and we called them gutters. I did not know the word "eavestrough" until we came here and bought a house.

Downspouts took water from the gutters, and were always on the outside of the house. That equals the down pipe here.

Some older houses also had a pipe leading from the sink and bath in the the bathroom to a downspout from the roof. When it was very cold, water in the downspouts froze solid, and I welt remember Dad leaning out of the bathroom window and pouring boiling water into the "funnel" where the pipe from the bathroom went into the downspout.

One of the last jobs I did before I got married was to climb a ladder to the roof of a 2-storey house, paint the outside of the gutters and then all the downspouts.

The word "gutter" was also used for the slight depression at the side of the road, if there was a pavement (= sidewalk) one had to step over the gutter.

There were grates spaced at intervals along the gutter where the water could run down into the underground system, just as there are grates in the gutters here.

I was amazed to see grates in the sides of the pavement "step" in the US, and some places in Canada, much larger than the flat grates, and some large enough for people to be washed into them in flooding.

Originally, way back when, the "gutter" ran down the center of the road, which was not paved back then, and it was where everyone threw their household waste, including human waste.

maggiewinchester

maggiewinchester Report 28 Apr 2023 22:58

The ultimate road gutter!
This was Middle Brook Street in Winchester in the 19th Century.

Pipes were laid in the latter part of the 19th Century, and the water/sewage, and everything else was diverted underground. Now, it just floods a little after rain.

https://middlebrookstreetwinchester.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/1817-bartlet-engraving.jpg

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 28 Apr 2023 23:36

I wonder how many people fell into that brook!

The central gutter was very useful back in the day ............... houses had overhanging upper floors, and it was very easy to empty guz'unders straight out of the window which was just above the gutter.

Hence the call of "gardyloo"