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Harvey family 1890's London East End

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CuriousFish

CuriousFish Report 19 May 2014 14:44

I'm looking for descendants of my grandfathers siblings
He was George Arthur HARVEY, 1891 – 1968, Stebondale Street. Isle of Dogs, London.
Parents James HARVEY and Mary Ann ELDRIDGE
siblings
Hanna 1862 – 1930
William 1889
John James 1894
Harry 1897
Emma 1899
My Tree is in the public domain both on 'Genes' and Ancestry

jax

jax Report 19 May 2014 15:48

You cannot have a public tree on Genes

Have you looked to see if any of this family are in any trees on here?

Pam

Pam Report 19 May 2014 16:54

www.freebmd.org.uk

You could check this website to see if you can find any marriages for the people you list.

greyghost

greyghost Report 19 May 2014 18:05

Is this the family you are looking at?? Children's names and birth years correct but different parents and Hannah is both a sibling b 1893 and the mother b1862!!!!!!!!! They are at Stebondale Street in the 1891 census but not the 1901.

1901 census
Print household transcription Household Members
First Name Last Name Relationship Condition Gender Age Year Of Birth Occupation Birth Place
GEORGE W HARVEY HEAD MARRIED Male 39 1862 GENERAL LABOURER GIRDER YARD ROTHERHITHE, LONDON
HANNAH HARVEY WIFE MARRIED Female 38 1863 - BURSLEM, STAFFORDSHIRE
WILLIAM J HARVEY SON SINGLE Male 12 1889 - POPLAR, LONDON
GEORGE A HARVEY SON SINGLE Male 10 1891 - POPLAR, LONDON
HANNAH HARVEY DAUGHTER SINGLE Female 8 1893 - POPLAR, LONDON
JOHN J HARVEY SON SINGLE Male 7 1894 - POPLAR, LONDON
HENRY J HARVEY SON SINGLE Male 4 1897 - CANNING TOWN, ESSEX
EMMA E HARVEY DAUGHTER SINGLE Female 2 1899 - CANNING TOWN, ESSEX
EMMA JAMES MOTHER-IN-LAW WIDOW Female 68 1833 - BURSLEM, STAFFORDSHIRE

Birth Town POPLAR
Birth County LONDON
Birth Place -
Street BOULTON ROAD
Town -
Parish WEST HAM
City -
Country ENGLAND
County Essex
Vessel Name -
Municipal Ward CANNING TOWN
Registration District WEST HAM
Archive Reference RG13
Piece Number 1576
Folio 130
Page 11
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1891 census

First Name Last Name Relationship Condition Gender Age Year Of Birth Occupation Birth Place
GEORGE W HARVEY HEAD MARRIED Male 29 1862 GENERAL LABOURER KENT
HANNAH HARVEY WIFE MARRIED Female 28 1863 - STAFFORDSHIRE
WILLIAM J HARVEY SON - Male 2 1889 - MIDDLESEX
GEORGE A HARVEY SON - Male 1 1890 - MIDDLESEX
EMMA JAMES MOTHER IN LAW WIDOW Female 59 1832 - STAFFORDSHIRE

Street STEBONDALE STREET
Town POPLAR
Parish POPLAR
City -
County London
Registration District POPLAR
Vessel Name -
Archive Reference RG12
Piece Number 335
Folio 87
Page 42

greyghost

greyghost Report 19 May 2014 18:30

Hannah (mother) remarried by 1911 and daughter Hannah the only child away from home

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

First Name Last Name Relationship Condition Gender Age Year Of Birth Occupation Birth Place
ERICK FIELDEN HEAD MARRIED Male 56 1855 CORN PORTER SWEDEN RESIDENT
HANNAH FIELDEN WIFE MARRIED Female 48 1863 - BURSHAW STAFFORDSHIRE
WILLIAM HARVEY SON SINGLE Male 22 1889 RIVETTER CUBITT TOWN POPLAR
GEORGE HARVEY SON SINGLE Male 20 1891 DOCK LABOURER CUBITT TOWN POPLAR
JOHN HARVEY SON SINGLE Male 17 1894 FACTORY HAND CUBITT TOWN POPLAR
HARRY HARVEY SON - Male 14 1897 OFFICE BOY CANNING TOWN WEST HAM
EMMA HARVEY DAUGHTER - Female 12 1899 SCHOOL CANNING TOWN WEST HAM

Address 106 HILDA ROAD CANNING TOWN
Parish WEST HAM
County Essex
Country ENGLAND
Birth Place CANNING TOWN WEST HAM
Year Of Marriage -
Years Of Marriage -
Archive Reference RG14
Piece Number 9461
Census Reference RG14PN9461 RG78PN507B RD188 SD3 ED51 SN147
Registration District WEST HAM
Registration District Number 188
Sub District PLAISTOW
Enumeration District 51
SubDistrict Number 3

-------------------------------------------------
This looks like daughter Hannah in 1911

First Name Last Name Relationship Condition Gender Age Year Of Birth Occupation Birth Place
ELIZABETH SARAH BROWN HEAD WIDOW Male 44 1867 BOARDING HOUSE KEEPER ISLINGTON LONDON
WILLIAM POWLETT EVANS BOARDER SINGLE Male 25 1886 MASTER MARINER ROME ITALY RESIDENT
HANNAH HARVEY MAID SINGLE Female 18 1893 KITCHEN MAID BOARDING HOUSE CUBITT TOWN

Address 58 EAST INDIA DK ROAD POPLAR E
Parish POPLAR BOROUGH
County London
Country ENGLAND
Birth Place CUBITT TOWN
Year Of Marriage -
Years Of Marriage -
Archive Reference RG14
Piece Number 1728
Census Reference RG14PN1728 RG78PN60 RD22 SD3 ED12 SN4
Registration District POPLAR
Registration District Number 22
Sub District POPLAR
Enumeration District 12
SubDistrict Number 3
------------------------------------------------------------------

So you need to look for marriages post 1911 for all children probably in the West Ham area for starters at the free website suggested by Pam earlier in the thread.

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

and then you can look for children from the marriages

CuriousFish

CuriousFish Report 20 May 2014 08:21

Thank you all, and to answer the questions raised.
Jax, yes I had already seached on genes, not once but several times. Frustratingly a couple of members with potential matches never replied to my enquiries. Despite me trying to contact them several times.
Pam, yes free BDM is a good place to search, pity that none of mine have unusal first names.
Greyghost, I had already found that information.
Posting on the 'Find Living Relatives' page was a bit of a long shot. I have expolored so many dead ends with this family.
I'll keep searchin :-S

greyghost

greyghost Report 20 May 2014 09:24

Trying to establish if they were the right family as if so, some of the information you have given in your first post is misleading ie naming Hannah 1862 as a sibling and the parents as James and Mary Ann.
I spent some not inconsiderable time trying to find them in an effort to help and asked if I had the right family before going further. Judging by your "I had already found that information" they are the right family.
You will probably have to visit a records office or invest in certificates to find marriages and descendants, but I'm sure you already know this.

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 21 May 2014 01:35

well done greyghost, and indeed, having found that information isn't quite consistent with posting the information shown in the opening post ...


Births Sep 1892
Harvey Hannah Poplar 1c 702

two possible looking marriages

Marriages Jun 1913
Harvey Hannah Harvey W.Ham 4a 447
Harvey Richard F Harvet W.Ham 4a 447

which would be unfortunate from the perspective of looking for births

Marriages Sep 1913
Gaiger Thomas Harvey W.Ham 4a 683
Harvey Hannah Gaiger W.Ham 4a 683

a fortunately unusual name with 6 births showing 1914-1932

and a death that perfectly matches the quarter of birth in 1892

Name: Hannah Gaiger
Birth Date: 25 Aug 1892
Date of Registration: Mar 1971
Age at Death: 78
Registration district: Havering
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 5c
Page: 4

so there is one sibling almost certainly accounted for

of course the marriage certificate would be needed for real certainty by age and father's name etc.

the eldest child Hannah 1914 is in a tree here, for instance

possibly one of the same people you have already tried to contact

of course there is almost always one single reason why people do not reply to contacts ... they never receive the message (which you can determine by looking to see whether there is still an envelope beside your sent message)

many people put a tree up at this site years ago, never had anything come of it, never returned to the site ... and changed their email address without updating their account

I'm sure I am registered at sites all over the internet with old email addresses, before I settled on the permanent solution (an online account for this purpose) :-)

anyway other people have Thomas 1917, Kathleen 1922 ... in their trees ... worth looking up the births at freebmd for Hannah Harvey Geiger alone and contacting people with her children in their trees if you haven't already tried them maybe

CuriousFish

CuriousFish Report 21 May 2014 08:42

My aplogies greyghost, you are certainly right about me posting incorrect parents for my grandfather :-( .
JoonieCloonie, you may have well solved it, for Hannah at least.
A cousin thinks your mention of the name Gaiger is vaugly familiar.
I am as always grateful for the help of all you clever genies who take th time and effort to help.
A HUGE thank you to you all <3