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You would think that it would not be hard to find my great great grandfather with such and unusual name but I can only find him in the 1901 census. At that time he was living with his daughter (my great grandmother) and her two daughters (one my grandmother). Other than 1901 I cannot find anything about either of them. My granmother was born in 1894 so she wouldn't be in earlier ones. Has anyone any ideas what I am doing wrong. I am very new to this game Thanks for any help.

Hi

What can you tell us about your great great grandfather - parents.birth place any sibblings ...

From the census records, where were they born please?

Person: BICKERDYKE, Israel
Address: 230 Firs Lane Leigh

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I assume this one is the son of the Israel in the post above!
BICKERDYKE, Israel Head Married 30 years M 51 1860 Dataller Underground Timberman Flowery Field Cheshire VIEW
BICKERDYKE, Mary Ann Wife Married 30 years F 51 1860 Dukinfield Cheshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
23226 Reference:
RG14PN23226 RG78PN1357 RD460 SD3 ED18 SN53

Registration District:
Leigh Sub District:
Leigh EnumerationDistrict:
18 Parish:
Leigh

Address:
230 Firs Lane Leigh County:
Lancashire

This one in 1901??

Name: Israel Bickerdyke
Age: 65
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Dukinfield, Cheshire, England

Civil parish: Dukinfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Dukinfield St Mark
Town: Dukinfield
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Ashton-under-Lyne
Sub-registration district: Stalybridge
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 25
Household Members: Name Age
Israel Bickerdyke 65
Mary Ann Bickerdyke 29
Eva Bickerdyke 6
Alice Bickerdyke 3

1851?

1851 England Census

Name: Issacl Bickerdike
[Israel Bickerdike]
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1835
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Hyde, Cheshire, England

Civil parish: Newton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Cheshire

Registration district: Ashton Under Lyne
Sub-registration district: Newton

Joseph Bickerdike 65
Ann Bickerdike 63
Mary Bickerdike 39
Elizabeth Bickerdike 36
Margaret Bickerdike 21
Issacl Bickerdike 16
Adorah Bickerdike 15
Joseph Bickerdike 12
Alfred Bickerdike 10
Jennie Bickerdike 9

Jan

1861 England Census

Name: Israel Bickerdyke
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Lydia
Gender: Male
Where born: Hyde, Cheshire, England

Civil parish: Newton Moor
Ecclesiastical parish: Godley cum Newton
County/Island: Lancashire

Registration district: Ashton Under Lyne
Sub-registration district: Newton

Israel Bickerdyke 25
Lydia Bickerdyke 26
Joseph Bickerdyke 3
Israel Bickerdyke 1
Matthew Bickerdyke 51
Alfred Bickerdyke 19
Joseph Bickerdyke 21

Different wife's name to the others though.

OMG such info. I am obviously doing something wrong. I do know he was born in 1836 and lived in Dukinfield etc. I am very interested to find out where all this info was found. There seems to be some differences. My great grandmother was called Margaret Ann however I thought his wife was called Lydia not Lavinia. Also what are all the numbers (RG, Folio) so much to learn so little time..........

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Israel Bickerdyke
Name: Israel Bickerdyke
Year of Registration: 1855
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Stockport
County: Cheshire, Lancashire
Volume: 8a
Page: 92



Israel Bickerdyke 1855 Stockport Cheshire, Lancashire

Lydia Corthorn 1855 Stockport

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Israel Bickerdyke
Name: Israel Bickerdyke
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Year of Registration: 1907
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 71
District: Ashton Under Lyne
County: Cheshire, Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 394

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Israel Bickerdyke
Name: Israel Bickerdyke
Year of Registration: 1865
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Ashton Under Lyne
County: Cheshire, Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 672




Israel Bickerdyke 1865 Ashton Under Lyne Cheshire, Lancashire


Lavina Hodson 1865 Ashton Under Lyne Cheshire, Lancashire

Could he have married Lavinia after death of Lydia?

BICKERDYKE, Israel Marriage
Wife: Lavina HODSON
Marriage Date: 20 Feb 1865 Recorded in: Staley, Cheshire, England
Husband's Father: Matthew BICKERDYKE
Source: FHL Film Dates: 1861 - 1872

Death of Lydia:

Deaths Sep 1864 (>99%)
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Bickerdyke Lydia Ashton 8d 295

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Israel Bickerdyke
Name: Israel Bickerdyke
Year of Registration: 1880
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Ashton Under Lyne
County: Cheshire, Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 764




Mary Ann Bamber 1880 Ashton Under Lyne Cheshire, Lancashire

Israel Bickerdyke 1880 Ashton Under Lyne Cheshire, Lancashire

Thats why I put up the two marriages to Lydia and Lavina.

Also on the 1891 census Israel is a widower with daughters.

Okay getting loads of info now, will be able to look properly tonight. One thought though, could be great great grandfather Israel was married to Lydia and son Israel was married to Lavinia. Still can't figure out how you got all this in such a short time, I must be looking in the wrong places coupled with inexperience.

Jennifer it is all on Ancestry.com

The marriages to Lydia and Lavinia are the same Israel born 1836 Cheshire. The last one I put up could be his son born 1860.

The 1901 census is transcribed wrong as the Mary Ann is his daighter but her surname is Gee and so are the children Eva and Alice? Gee. Mary Ann Gee is a widow too.

This is it
1901 England Census
about Mary Ann Bickerdyke
Name: Mary Ann Bickerdyke
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Israel
Gender: Female
Where born: Dukinfield, Cheshire, England

Civil parish: Dukinfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Dukinfield St Mark
Town: Dukinfield
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:<<< 3 Old Hall St.****************

Occupation: Mary Ann is a cotton weaver Israel is a coal Miner

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Ashton-under-Lyne
Sub-registration district: Stalybridge
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 25
Household Members: Name Age
Israel Bickerdyke 65
Mary Ann Bickerdyke 29 <<<<<Gee
Eva Bickerdyke 6 <<<<<Gee
Alice Bickerdyke 3 <<<<Gee

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Margaret Ann Bickerdyke
Name: Margaret Ann Bickerdyke
Year of Registration: 1894
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Ashton Under Lyne
County: Cheshire, Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 672




Margaret Ann Bickerdyke 1894 Ashton Under Lyne Cheshire, Lancashire

James Gee 1894 Ashton Under Lyne Cheshire, Lancashire

I should think this is the Christening of Israel 1836 as his daughters marriage comes under Lancashire/Cheshire and he had a son Matthew.

ISRAEL BICKERDYKE Pedigree
Male


Birth:
Christening: 11 OCT 1835 Saint Michael, Ashton Under Lyne, Lancashire, England

Parents:
Father: MATTHEW BICKERDYKE Family
Mother: HANNAH

Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.

AND HIS SISTER's Christening

ADORAH BICKERDIKE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 25 JUN 1837 Saint Michael, Ashton Under Lyne, Lancashire, England


Did'nt he have a child named Dora???