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Charlotte

Charlotte Report 30 Nov 2009 14:30

Hi I'm trying to find any relations to Thomas Downs who was born c 1928, this is my first posting so i hope this is the right place. He was married to Jane (don't know her surname) and lived in Crewe, cheshire.
If this rings any bells, i'd be glad to hear from you to share more

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 30 Nov 2009 14:33

If you refer to living relations, try looking in search trees - just above the board - to find out whether anyone else is researching these people.

When did the marriage take place? Were there any children?

Without Jane's maiden name, searching will be far from easy.

Where was Thomas born? How does he fit into your family tree?

Charlotte

Charlotte Report 30 Nov 2009 14:52

Thomas would be my g. gt. grandfather.I don't know the date of their marriage i'm afraid, they had one son that i know of called Alfred, born c1880 - who was my great grandfather on my fathers side - who i remember as a child.
They lived in Crewe, Cheshire.
I was given some recent interesting information, that comes from this side of the family

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 30 Nov 2009 14:55

Can you check your dates, please.......................

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 30 Nov 2009 14:57

How could he be born in 1928 and have a son born in 1880??

Charlotte

Charlotte Report 30 Nov 2009 14:58

yes..oops. the c1928 should be c1828

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 30 Nov 2009 15:02

Can't see an Alfred matching those details

Have you looked on freebmd for a birth? Or on the FREE 1881 census

It's on www.familysearch.org

Which of Alfred's children is your grandparent? Have you worked backwards - generation by generation?

How do you know that Alfred's father was born so early? What documents do you have naming his father as Thomas?

Charlotte

Charlotte Report 30 Nov 2009 15:04

thanks, i'll take a look...just trying to get the hang of all this

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 30 Nov 2009 15:08

this could be them on the 1891 census,both a bit old to be having a son c 1880??
Name: Thomas Downs
Age: 64
Estimated birth year: abt 1827
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Northwich, Cheshire, England

Civil parish: Coppenhall Monks
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Crewe
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street Address:59 sanabach street

Occupation:boilermaker

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Nantwich
Sub-registration district: Crewe
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Downs 64
Jane Downs 66
Jane Downs 31
Alice Downs 26

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 2852; Folio 27; Page 47; GSU roll: 6097962.

No Alfred with them though

Charlotte

Charlotte Report 30 Nov 2009 15:23

Thank you Shirley, this does sound them them - I'm wondering if perhaps Alfred was a grandchild rather than a son....

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 30 Nov 2009 15:29

Charlotte

Start with what you KNOW

Which of Alfred's children was your grandparent? (As I asked above)

You must work backwards, systematically - it's the only way to be as sure as you can be that you are on the right lines

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 30 Nov 2009 15:32

Thomas (1828) in 1871 - with a SON Thomas

Name: Thomas Downs
Age: 44
Estimated birth year: abt 1827
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Northwich
Civil parish: Coppenhall Monks
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Crewe
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Registration district: Nantwich
Sub-registration district: Wybunbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Household schedule number: 59
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Downs 44
Jane Downs 47
Thomas Downs 18 Born LIVERPOOL
Sarah Downs 16
Richard Downs 14 Born CREWE
Jane Downs 11
Alice Downs 6
Gorge A Downs 4 Born CREWE


Freewheel

Freewheel Report 30 Nov 2009 15:34

The son Thomas in 1901

Name: Thomas Downs
Age: 48
Estimated birth year: abt 1853
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Coppenhall Monks
Ecclesiastical parish: Crewe St Paul
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Nantwich
Sub-registration district: Crewe
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 99
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Downs 48
Hannah Downs 30
Thomas Downs 20
Edith Downs 18
Ernest Downs 16
Albert W Downs 14 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Alfred
Elenor Downs 11

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 30 Nov 2009 15:36

Son Richard in 1901

Name: Richard Downs
Age: 44
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Laura
Gender: Male
Where born: Crewe, Cheshire, England

Civil parish: Coppenhall Monks
Ecclesiastical parish: Crewe St Paul
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Nantwich
Sub-registration district: Crewe
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 169
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Downs 44
Laura Downs 36
Ada Downs 10
Arthur Downs 8

Charlotte

Charlotte Report 30 Nov 2009 17:20

Thank you ...

Alfred was my parternal grandmothers father. Her name is Ethel (c1918), she had a brother called Edmund.

Alfred married Harriet - not sure of year.
They lived in Crewe and he died c1973.

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 30 Nov 2009 17:24

You seem very unsure about your info - have you tried to find Ethel's birth on freebmd?

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com

Who did she marry?

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 30 Nov 2009 17:27

This is a possible marriage - the cert would tell you his age and father's details

Marriages Sep 1910 (>99%)
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Arrowsmith Clement Nantwich 8a 762
Downs Alfred W Nantwich 8a 762
Furniss Harriett A Nantwich 8a 762

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 30 Nov 2009 17:28

Children of the above marriage?

Births Mar 1912 (>99%)
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Downs Alfred E Furniss Nantwich 8a 601

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Births Dec 1916 (>99%)
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Downs Ethel F Furniss Nantwich 8a 514


Was her husband Morris Weston?

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 30 Nov 2009 17:34

I think this is the necessary confirmation

Name: Ethel Furness Weston
Birth Date: 27 Nov 1916
Death Registration Month/Year: May 1997
Age at death (estimated): 80
Registration district: Vale Royal
Inferred County: Cheshire
Register number: 1F
District and Subdistrict: 3451B
Entry number: 115

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 30 Nov 2009 17:40

??

Name: Harriet Ann Furniss
Year of Registration: 1887
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Nantwich
County: Cheshire
Volume: 8a
Page: 348