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julia of sussex

julia of sussex Report 20 Jan 2010 16:18

If you have just an address for someone can it be found on the census ? an if so would someone be so kind as to look one up for me ?

The year would be 1891 so the census nearest that and the address is
15 Neptune street which i think is in ROTHERHITHE as thats where thay got married the person in question is a man be the name of WILLIAM PEARCE and he was 35 years old and his occupation was CLERK
any help would be most wellcome

julia

Patricia

Patricia Report 20 Jan 2010 16:36

Hi Julia yes I looked at the 1891 census for 15 Neptune Street Rotherhrithe, no Wm Pearce at no 15






bighen

bighen Report 20 Jan 2010 16:37

Not very good at this but i had a look on FIND MY PAST and at 15 Neptune st Rotherhide were the Hunter family

julia of sussex

julia of sussex Report 20 Jan 2010 16:41

Thank you both for trying this person is a pain in the you know where
im so up against a brick wall

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 20 Jan 2010 16:53

Hi Julia,
I see the marriage record to Eliza Jane RIVERS in 1891. Have you found them on any other census to see where he says he's from??

Maureen

Patricia

Patricia Report 20 Jan 2010 16:57

Unfortunately William Pearce is a common name, do you have any info on children etc,

julia of sussex

julia of sussex Report 20 Jan 2010 17:04

Hi yes i have their marriage certificate but on a the marraige certificate of his son also willam pearce (1933) hes dead and in the box of fathers occupation it says that he was a licenced victuallar.

his son was my grandfather whos death certificate we have but cant find a birth certificate and untill we get thta we cant put a headstone on his grave its as thought neither of them ever existed
ive been to the national archives ect but no luck

thanks all for looking

julia

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 20 Jan 2010 17:10

About what year was William jnr. born??

And were you able to find William and Eliza on the 1901 or 1911?

Maureen

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 20 Jan 2010 18:46

1891 census - address transcription
Address: 5, Neptune Street, Shadwell


78 PEARCE, Daniel Head Married M 39 1852 Labourer
London VIEW
78 PEARCE, Lizzie Wife Married F 27 1864


some connection?
London street numbers were changed at one point.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 20 Jan 2010 19:11

1911 census - household transcription
Person: PEARCE, William George
Address: 68 Borough Road Southwark

PEARCE, William George Head Married
33 years M 54 1857 Lic Victualler London Clapham VIEW
HOUNTON, Lily May Servant Single F 24 1887 Barmaid London Islington VIEW
BETTS, James Martin Servant Single M 21 1890 Barman Norfolk Norwich VIEW
ANGUS, George Alfred Servant Single M 24 1887 Potman London Peckham VIEW
MARTIN, William Servant Single M 32 1879 Barman London Spalding VIEW
BARHAM, Lucy Monica Servant Single F 35 1876 Cook Domestic London New Cross VIEW
CRONAN, May Servant Single F 18 1893 Housemaid Domestic London Poplar

Unfortunatel mrs pearce not at home

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 20 Jan 2010 19:18

This has a william and Eliza but he is a fishmonger

1901 census - household transcription
Person: PEARCE, William
Address: 55, St Peters Street, Islington
PEARCE, William Head Married M 47 1854 Fishmonger
City
London VIEW
PEARCE, Eliza Wife Married F 40 1861
Stepney
London VIEW
PEARCE, William Son Single M 16 1885 Telegraph Operator
Newington
London VIEW
PEARCE, George Son Single M 14 1887 Telegraph Messenger
Newington
London VIEW
PEARCE, Charles Son Single M 9 1892
Camberwell
London VIEW
KIDSON, Frederick Nephew Single M 35 1866 Fishmongers Asst
St Georges in E
London

julia of sussex

julia of sussex Report 20 Jan 2010 19:19

FLO

her maiden name was RIVERS

MAU NY

we think he wwas born around 1888 as we have his death certificate but cant find any record of this

FLO

william jnr married FLORENCE ADA POWIS on 7th oct 1933 by ths time he was a COMMISSIONED SIGNAL BOATSWAINE
on
H.M.S..VICTORY portsmouth

julia

Julie

Julie Report 20 Jan 2010 19:27

1901

Eliza Jane Pearce
Age: 32
Estimated birth year: abt 1869
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Wm
Gender: Female
Where born: Mile End, London, England
Civil parish: Bermondsey
Ecclesiastical parish: St Augustine Bermondsey
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: St Olave Southwark
Sub-registration district: Bermondsey
ED, institution, or vessel: 39
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 220
Household Members:
Name Age
Wm Pearce 53....1848, Poplar, Middlesex, England
Eliza Jane Pearce 32
Wm Pearce 11.....1890, Islington, London, England

Williams occupation is a Constable (Docks)

________________

This is Eliza in the 1871..by the 1881 her & Rose were in an orphanage

Eliza J Rivers
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1869
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George J
Mother's Name: Mary A
Gender: Female
Where born: Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Mile End Old Town
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
Town: Mile End Old Town
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Mile End Old Town
Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town, Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Household schedule number: 144
Household Members:
Name Age
George J Rivers 34
Mary A Rivers 30
Geo Williams 10
Annie A Rivers 8
Emily H Rivers 7
Clara A Rivers 5
Agnes T Rivers 3
Eliza J Rivers 2
Rose Rivers 11 month

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 20 Jan 2010 19:33

maybe this one

Day: 13

Month: 1

Year: 1858

Forename: Eliza

Othernames:

Surname: Rivers

Fathers forenames: William

Fathers occupation: Master Mariner

Mothers forenames: Eliza

Birth date: 23 July 1857

Address: Stainsby Terrace, Poplar

Location of church: Limehouse

Parish: St Anne

Church address: Commercial Road

Entry No: 1614

Source Ref: X069/002

Transcriber Note:

Julie

Julie Report 20 Jan 2010 19:35

There are 2 possibles for Williams birth

Births Mar 1889 (>99%)
Pearce William Charles Islington 1b 397
Births Dec 1889 (>99%)
Pearce William John Islington 1b 285

julia of sussex

julia of sussex Report 20 Jan 2010 19:41

gosh you lot are amazing i wouldnt have found all of this out ( im not that computer literate) thank you so much especially julie who looks as though shes cracked it

am going to meet my dad tomorrow so i have printed it all off and he can take a look

thanks again everybody

julia

Julie

Julie Report 20 Jan 2010 19:55

Hi Julia

Be careful with those births William C is defiantly not your William as that ones parents are coming up as Edwin & Ellen on the 1891

There is another William Pearce on the 1891 he is down as born 1890 & parents names are William & Elizabeth but they are not your William & Eliza as other info is not the same as the 1901


So i wouldn't put my life on as either being correct.......really need to pick your guys up in the 1891

julia of sussex

julia of sussex Report 20 Jan 2010 20:00

I have the info on the orphanage that thay were put in to we have all the letters of entry and who put them there makes interesting reading

julia of sussex

julia of sussex Report 20 Jan 2010 20:23

Thanks again for all your help

julia

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 20 Jan 2010 21:40

Marriage Ref:
Name: Eliza Jane Rivers spinster (can't read her address,but it looks like 4 Ad??)
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Spouse Name: William Pearce bachelor Occ: Clerk 15 Neptune Place
Spouse Age: 35
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 10 May 1891
Parish: All Saints, Rotherhithe
County: Middlesex
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: George Rivers dec'd Commercial Traveller
Spouse Father Name: James Pearce dec'd Labourer

Oh goodness!!!!!
This HAS to be them!! And no thanks to Ancestry...
Name: Liza Jane Jackson
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Richd
Gender: Female
Where born: Mile End
Civil parish: Rotherhithe
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:3 Adam Street
Registration district: St Olave Southwark
Sub-registration district: Rotherhithe
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
Richd Jackson 35
Elizabeth Mary Jackson 29
Elizabeth Catherine Jackson 7
Richard Willm Jackson 5
Sarah Jackson 3
Emma Jackson 3
William John Jackson 10/12
Albert Snelling 21
>>>William Plane 35 Pearce on image Occ: Constable L.C.D. Coy born Poplar
>>>Liza Jane Jackson 26 obviously Pearce

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 381; Folio 77; Page 10;

So that ties in somewhat with the 1901 Julie found. (except for the ages..) And where is young William? I wonder if he was registered as RIVERS??

Maureen