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After weeks of searching for my Great nan's birth I decided to look for her death. Her name was Grace Gertrude Pike (I'm almost positive her maiden name was Marsh) and she was born 21/3/1904 (i'm not entirely sure where she was born)

She died in Jan 1992 in Liverpool.

Any information would be gratefully received as my family tree has hit a wall on this line since i'm not 100% that her maiden name was Marsh (only about 90% sure)

England & Wales, Death Index: 1984-2005
about Grace Gertrude Pike
Name: Grace Gertrude Pike
Birth Date: 21 Mar 1904
Death Registration Month/Year: Jan 1992
Age at death (estimated): 87
Registration district: Liverpool
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 36
Page: 1155

This marriage could be a mistranscription


England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Grace E Marsh
Name: Grace E Marsh
Year of Registration: 1926
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's name: Charles Pike
District: West Derby
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 483

do you have a childs birth date/year as the birth index will give mothers maiden name. Happy to have a look for index if you post details

Just to confuse the situation even more there is this birth which could well be the one who marrIed Charles PIKE
MARSH Grace Ernestine Pancras.1b 162 1 1904

These are all the Grace Gertrudes registered 1st and 2nd q 1904 births

BALDWIN Grace Gertrude Barnet.3a 390 2 1904

BARRETT Grace Gertrude Toxteth Park.8b 164 2 1904

DIXIE Grace Gertrude Hackney.1b 546 2 1904

PRATT Grace Gertrude Isle Of Wight.2b 599 3 1904

WEBDALE Grace Gertrude Hendon.3a 330 1 1904

Thanks, thats the marriage I thought it was too. Charles and Grace (I'm hoping that Charles is my G grandfather now and i havent got that part wrong). They had:
Mary Elizabeth Pike 1926
Ethel May Pike 1930
Hilda Pike (my nan) 1933
Anne Pike 1934
Dorothy Pike c1936

This is the record of that marriage off a different site, this time transcribed as Grace G Marsh

Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
PIKE Charles MARSH Grace G Kirkdale, North Shore, St. Paul Liverpool 2016WD/5/16

any help would b appreciated. im stuck

Have you these births

Ethel M Pike mmn Marsh Apr-May-Jun 1930 W Derby 8b Pg 795

Hilda Pike mmn Marsh Jan-Feb-Mar 1933 W Derby 8b 575

Thank you. No i havent been able to find the record of it.
Ethel May Pike is my great aunt and Hilda Pike is my nan.
My nan's (Hilda) birthday is 2 Feb 1933 so her mother's maiden name was definitely Marsh.

I'm still struggling to find a proper record of Grace Gertrude Marsh's birth. I found her death record and it said her birthday was 21/3/1904 which is what my nan told me it was but I cant find a record of her birth anywhere

Jenna

If you get the birth cert it will give Grace's parent's names including her mother's maiden name and then you can look for their marriage.

sorry, just realised we haven't found her birth yet.

DOBs on death certs can be wrong. The day and month are quite often right but the year can be wrong.

Her marriage cert might have her age although it might just say of full age - meaning she was 21 or over.

my nan told me she was born 21/3/1904 and then i found the death record which had the correct dob on it.
At the moment im managing to trace other peoples families with no problem but im at a bit of a loss with my own

she was 88 when she died which also is shown on the death record

Jenna

What is on the death cert is what the person registering the birth thought. Even people's children sometimes get it wrong. My inlaws organised an 80th birthday party for my mother-in-law. They didn't believe me when I said she was only 79 (I knew because she was born the same year as my father). Well, she had two 80th birthday parties!!

Having said that, I can't find Grace's birth 10 years either side of 1904. Perhaps her birth wasn't registered (my mother's wasn't and that was 1907) or possibly it was registered under another name or maybe the Gertrude wasn't included in the registration.

Thanks for trying. My nan has just decided to mention tonight that she has the birth certificates of both Grace Gertrude Marsh and Charles Pike (my great-grandparents) and also their marriage certificate so maybe I'll be able to get somewhere with it afterall!

Good news for you , be intrested to know details of birth cert. as we have not been able to find her if you want to post them on this thread

As soon as I get them I'll post them here. It will be interesting to see what it says on the certificates. Especially after weeks of searching and finding nothing.

Ok, another dead end. My nan can't find the birth certificate so thats not gonna help me at all!

There is this as the birth was quite late in March then it could be in the next registration quarter.If you have her fathers name from a marriage cert and we could find someone of that name in this area it might be worth a check on this cert. to see what fathers name is given
Name: Female Marsh
Year of Registration: 1904
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Medway (1837-1941)
County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 709