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MARTIN WELLBROOK. Who did he marry???

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David

David Report 5 May 2009 09:27

He was born in 1827, Stepney London and died 1893. There was a Martin born in 1852/53/54 who may have been his son.
Can find a Martin marrying in Dec 1860 but would like to find out who to and what children they had.
Maybe Martin (born 1827) married in Ireland. How do I find info for Irish marriages.

Penny

Penny Report 5 May 2009 09:42

who registered his death?

No obvious martin Wellbrook on 1861 census - not England anyway

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 5 May 2009 10:17

There are not many maches on the censuses.
Thought you might find this one interesting.

1881 Address: "infirmary Of The Whitechapel Union" Bakers Row, Mile End New Town
WALLBROOK, Martin Pauper Widower M 60 1821 Dock Labourer
Yarmouth
Norfolk

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 5 May 2009 10:20

still there

1891 Institution: Bakers Row Infirmary Whitechapel Union, Bakers Row Whitechapel E
WALLBROOK, Martin Pauper Inmate Married M 66 1825 Dock Labourer
Bow
London

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 5 May 2009 10:32

no martin in 1841 but here is one to look at
his son was martin Henry and the census place is Stepney
1841 ages were often roundedc
Address: Horse Ferry Road, St Anne Limehouse, Tower Hamlets
MOHRMAN, Corb M 30 1811 Foreign VIEW
WALSHAW, Frederick M 15 1826 Middlesex VIEW
BROWNS, John M 20 1821 Foreign VIEW
BOKLING, Dederick M 20 1821 Foreign VIEW
TRUSUNE, William M 20 1821 Foreign VIEW
BRINGEN, Ludwey M 20 1821 Foreign VIEW
SCHMADES, Christian M 20 1821 Foreign VIEW
FRIESE, Adolph M 20 1821 Foreign VIEW
OTTEN, John M 20 1821 Foreign VIEW
PEPPER, Henry M 20 1821 Foreign VIEW
DOHLE, Dederick M 20 1821 Foreign VIEW
MOKRMAN, Conrad M 20 1821 Scotland VIEW
WELLBROOK, Henry M 20 1821 Foreign VIEW
ROSE, Henry M 20 1821 Foreign VIEW
MENKE, Gerrard M 20 1821 Foreign VIEW
OFTERHOLT, Henry M 30 1811 Foreign VIEW
LINTMEYER, Henry M 30 1811 Foreign VIEW
WEBER, Christopher M 30 1811 Foreign VIEW
STEFFERS, John M 20 1821 Foreign VIEW
MOHRMAN, Jacob M 20 1821 Scotland VIEW
WEYLER, Jacob M 25 1816 Foreign VIEW
RAHRS, Claus M 25 1816 Foreign VIEW
PETERS, Henry M 20 1821 Foreign VIEW
DITTIAN, Peter M 20 1821 Foreign VIEW
GEISLE, Fredk M 20 1821 Foreign VIEW
BOHLING, Claus M 30 1811 Foreign VIEW
HENKEN, John M 20 1821 Middlesex VIEW
BATTMAN, Henry M 20 1821 Foreign VIEW
BEYEN, Henry M 20 1821 Foreign VIEW
GERKEN, Fredk M 20 1821 Foreign VIEW
BUTTENBOHM, Fredk M 25 1816 Foreign VIEW
GERHEN, John M 20 1821 Foreign VIEW
NORTHURSEN, Dederick M 20 1821 Foreign VIEW
JAGEN, Henry M 25 1816 Foreign VIEW
ENGLEKE, Conrad M 25 1816 Foreign VIEW
WALKER, Christian M 25 1816 Foreign VIEW
SASSE, Berhend M 25 1816 Foreign VIEW
RUNPPEL, Frederick M 20 1821 Foreign VIEW
FINK, Carsten M 30 1811 Foreign VIEW
LINS, Jurgen M 20 1821 Foreign VIEW
EICHENBERCE, John M 25 1816 Foreign VIEW
HEINE, Henry M 20 1821 Foreign VIEW
MEYEN, William M 20 1821 Foreign VIEW
MEYEN, Henry M 20 1821 Foreign VIEW
ROHNKE, Claus M 20 1821 Foreign VIEW
GLAN, Albert M 20 1821 Foreign VIEW
CLAPPERBURG, Henry M 20 1821 Foreign VIEW
OTTEN, John M 20 1821 Foreign VIEW
SEPPNAKEBERG, John M 25 1816 Foreign VIEW
SPECKMAN, Jurgen M 25 1816 Foreign VIEW
OTTEN, Christian M 20 1821 Foreign VIEW
HORUSK, John M 20 1821 Foreign VIEW

Heather

Heather Report 5 May 2009 10:33

LOL, widower in the first entry and married in the second? Wonder if thats right :)

David, you should be working backwards and in that way you would have his child and then buy that cert and have his wifes full name from that backwards to find the marriage.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 5 May 2009 10:37

MARTIN THOMAS WELLBROOK Pedigree
Male
Christening: 05 AUG 1827 St Mary Whitechapel, Stepney, London, England
Parents:
Father: MARTIN WELLBROOK Family
Mother: SUSANNAH
Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


Batch No.:

C025576

Ricochet

Ricochet Report 5 May 2009 10:40

Buy the death cert, to find out who registered it.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 5 May 2009 10:43

could this be his father

1841bAddress: Fieldgate Street, St Mary Whitechapel, Tower Hamlets
BUCK, Henry M 25 1816 Middlesex VIEW
FUSELER, Clous M 40 1801 Foreign VIEW
WALBROOK, Martin M 40 1801 Foreign VIEW
SEAGAR, Clous M 25 1816 Foreign VIEW
SCHODE, Fruend M 35 1806 Foreign VIEW
SCHROEDER, Titiar M 20 1821 Foreign VIEW
MULLER, Luar M 25 1816 Foreign VIEW
SCRODER, Carstan M 20 1821 Foreign VIEW
OLESHARE, John M 20 1821 Foreign VIEW
WALLACE, John M 27 1814 Foreign VIEW
MOLTON, Gifford M 20 1821 Foreign VIEW
HOLLINGS, John M 20 1821 Foreign VIEW
MUREHOUS, Clous M 25 1816 Foreign VIEW
WILSHANDSON, Henry M 45 1796 Foreign

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 5 May 2009 10:48

I am not sure that the 1852 Matrin is his son

MARTIN HENRY WELBROOK Pedigree
Male
Event(s):
Birth: 24 DEC 1851

Christening: 08 FEB 1852 Saint Andrew, Bethnal Green, London, England

Parents:
Father: HENRY WELBROOK Family
Mother: MARY ANN
Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
Source Information:
Batch No.: :

C037601

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 5 May 2009 10:56

David
How did you arrive at Martin, Do you have other info regarding siblings children etc,? Or is he a spouse of someone in your tree? I have looked for anything related to Martin and born Stepney but I have not come up with obvious links, Why do you think he may have married in Ireland. I think you know more than you are telling. You have certainly not given me anything to link him to.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 5 May 2009 11:01

These are the siblings of Martin Thomas 1827

1. MARY ANN WELLBROOK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 07 AUG 1831 St Mary Whitechapel, Stepney, London, England

2. GEORGE WELLBROOK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 05 AUG 1827 St Mary Whitechapel, Stepney, London, England

3. MARTIN THOMAS WELLBROOK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 05 AUG 1827 St Mary Whitechapel, Stepney, London, England

4. ROBERT HENRY WELLBROOK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 28 JUL 1833 St Mary Whitechapel, Stepney, London, England

David

David Report 5 May 2009 12:45

Christine this is all I know. Martin WELBROK arrived in Canterbury New Zealand in 1872 at the age of 19 on the "Pleiades" from London listed as a sugar baker. In 1877 he sailed to Invercargill and was known as Wellbrook or Wellbrock. He married in 1882 . His marriage cert says Martin Wellbrock and descendants are all Wellbrocks. His father is listed as Martin and mother Mary

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 5 May 2009 12:52

So you actually researching Martin Welbrock c1853.
How did Stepney and Ireland come into you thinking?

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 5 May 2009 13:03

So Martin Henry 1851 looks possible but father listed as Henry

1871 Address: Hyde Street, St Paul, Deptford
WELBROCK, Martin Henry Lodger M 19 1852 Middlesex
BOULTON, Henry Boarder M 60 1811 Middlesex

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 5 May 2009 13:07

looks like he married before he left

Marriages Dec 1872 (>99%)
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COLLINS George John St. Olave 1d 365
POPE Elizabeth Ann St. Olave 1d 365
Webber Louisa Jane St. Olave 1d 365
Welbrock Martin Henry St. Olave 1d 365

David

David Report 5 May 2009 13:09

Yes trying to research Martin spelt WeLLbrock but the name is also listed in the Genes Reunited records as Wellbrook, so it becomes very confusing.
Stepney because I thought I would start in the early 1880's and find someone connected to the sugar bakers and came across martin wellbrock also spelt wellbrook born 1801 in Germany. Our ancestors are German and work from there. Ireland because there was thought in the family that she was Irish. probably wrong though

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 5 May 2009 13:15

no that cannot be right

1881 Address: Weybourne Lane, Farnham
WELBROOK, Martin Head Married M 29 1852 Engine Fitter
Whitechapel
Middlesex
WELBROOK, Louisa Wife Married F 28 1853
Bridgewater
Somerset
WELBROOK, Louisa J Daughter Single F 7 1874
Newcross
Kent
WELBROOK, Edith E Daughter Single F 6 1875
Newcross
Kent
WELBROOK, Eva J Daughter Single F 2 1879
Farnham
Surrey


1891 Address: 5, ?, Saunders Road, Plumstead
WELBROCK, Martin Head Married M 39 1852 Engine Fitter
Bethnal Green
London
WELBROCK, Louisa Wife Married F 37 1854
Bridgwater
Somersetshire
WELBROCK, Edith Daughter F 16 1875 Teacher Of Music
Deptford
London
WELBROCK, Minnie Daughter F 7 1884 Scholar
Westham
WELBROCK, Martie Daughter F 4 1887 Scholar
Plumstead
London
WELBROCK, Leah Daughter F 2 1889
Plumstead
London

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 5 May 2009 13:24

from the sugarbaker database


WELLBROCK Conrad foreign (age 25) Ratcliff Highway London 1841 1841 census HO107 /696/ 5/ 9
WELLBROCK Johann Heinrich of Altendamm, Amt Osterholz - - London 1832-50 Horst Roessler - research
WELLBROOK Francis of Germany (charged with cutting & wounding) (offence in Betts St) London 1873 The Times
WELLBROOK Henry Foreign (age 20) Horseferry Rd, Limehouse London 1841 1841 census H107 /701 /7 /38
WELLBROOK Marten of Nordsode, Amt Osterholz - - to London 1815 Horst Roessler - research
WELLENBROCK Heinrich of Zeven - - to London 1848 Metzner - Shipping Lists

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 5 May 2009 13:31

possible
Martin Wellbrock Pedigree
Male Family


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Event(s):
Birth: 24 APR 1810 Gnarrenburg,Ostersode, Bremervoerde, Hannover, Preussen

Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Marriages:
Spouse: Catharina Stelljes Family
Marriage: 06 DEC 1833 Gnarrenburg,Nordsode, Bremervoerde, Hannover, Preussen