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MARTIN WELLBROOK. Who did he marry???

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LadyKira

LadyKira Report 5 May 2009 15:03

More from the sugarbakers database
I think you need to check 1851 census

WELBROCK Cord - (birth cert of daughter) (1 Pell St) London 1840 FTM2008
WELBROCK Cort of Osterholtz - (2 Pell Place, 3 Pell St) London 1845-8 St George's Ger Luth Ch Regs
WELBROCK Diederich of Germany (age 29) E Goodhart Son & Co Horseferry Rd, Stepney London 1851 1851 census HO107/1554/347
WELBROCK George of Prussia (age 17) (son of John) (5 Christian St) London 1871 1871 census RG10 /529 /62
WELBROCK George of Hanover (age 27) 57 Betts St London 1851 1851 census HO107/1547/47
WELBROCK Johann Hinrich - (marriage) Stepney London 1848 David Warncken - family research
WELBROCK Johann Hinrich of Hamdon - (5 North St) London 1849 St George's Ger Luth Ch Regs
WELBROCK Johann Hinrich of Hendam Osterholz (naturalisation) (arrived 1839) (5 Christian St + Scarborough Arms St Marks St Whitechapel) London 1873 TNA HO 45/9352/27933 (KB)
WELBROCK John of Hanover (age 37) (5 Christian St) London 1871 1871 census RG10 /529 /62
WELBROCK Martin of Hanover (age 51) Friend & Boden 16 Fieldgate St London 1851 1851 census HO107/1545/468
WELBROCK Martin of Germany (age 50) (1 Gloucester St) London 1851 1851 census HO107/1552/88

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 5 May 2009 14:42

This is also from the sugar bakers database

WELBROK Martin of Germany (age 19) (died 1919 in NZ) - to NZ 1872 Archives NZ (RW)

http://home.clara.net/mawer/sugarwwae.html

Looks like your one
explains why I cannot find him in England

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 5 May 2009 14:27

You were interested in this marriage from your other thread.
I presume you think it may be the NZ Martin c1853 's father but the marriage is a little late. If Parents were not married when he was born may he have been given his mother's name at birth.

Marriages Dec 1860 (>99%)
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Hanley Mary Maria Whitechapel 1c 803
MIDDLETON Elizabeth Whitechapel 1c 803
Middleton Elizabeth Whitechapel 1c 803
Pickard John Whitechapel 1c 803
Wellbrook Martin Whitechapel 1c 803

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 5 May 2009 14:03

There is no other Martin wellbrock born c1853 on the census returns only the one that remains in UK and marries Louisa.

Eileen

Eileen Report 5 May 2009 13:55

In 1871 there is a Martin Henry Wellbrook at 27 Hyde Street St Paul's Deptford. He is 18 born Poplar( part or very near Stepney) Engine fitter lodger.
RG10 piece744 Folio 64 page 16
Eileen

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 5 May 2009 13:37

this is a duplicate posting!!! grrrrrrrr

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 5 May 2009 13:33

even better

MARTIN WELLBROCK Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth: 17 NOV 1797 Scharmbeck Osterholz, Hannover, Preussen

Parents:
Father: MARTEN WELLBROCK Family
Mother: AGENTE SCHMONSEES



Messages:
Form submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The form lists the submitter's name and address and may include source information. The address may be outdated. Details vary. To find the form, you must know the batch and sheet number.

Source Information:
Batch Number: 8701623
Sheet: 03
Source Call No.: 1396300 Type: Film

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 5 May 2009 13:31

possible
Martin Wellbrock Pedigree
Male Family


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Event(s):
Birth: 24 APR 1810 Gnarrenburg,Ostersode, Bremervoerde, Hannover, Preussen

Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Marriages:
Spouse: Catharina Stelljes Family
Marriage: 06 DEC 1833 Gnarrenburg,Nordsode, Bremervoerde, Hannover, Preussen

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 5 May 2009 13:24

from the sugarbaker database


WELLBROCK Conrad foreign (age 25) Ratcliff Highway London 1841 1841 census HO107 /696/ 5/ 9
WELLBROCK Johann Heinrich of Altendamm, Amt Osterholz - - London 1832-50 Horst Roessler - research
WELLBROOK Francis of Germany (charged with cutting & wounding) (offence in Betts St) London 1873 The Times
WELLBROOK Henry Foreign (age 20) Horseferry Rd, Limehouse London 1841 1841 census H107 /701 /7 /38
WELLBROOK Marten of Nordsode, Amt Osterholz - - to London 1815 Horst Roessler - research
WELLENBROCK Heinrich of Zeven - - to London 1848 Metzner - Shipping Lists

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 5 May 2009 13:15

no that cannot be right

1881 Address: Weybourne Lane, Farnham
WELBROOK, Martin Head Married M 29 1852 Engine Fitter
Whitechapel
Middlesex
WELBROOK, Louisa Wife Married F 28 1853
Bridgewater
Somerset
WELBROOK, Louisa J Daughter Single F 7 1874
Newcross
Kent
WELBROOK, Edith E Daughter Single F 6 1875
Newcross
Kent
WELBROOK, Eva J Daughter Single F 2 1879
Farnham
Surrey


1891 Address: 5, ?, Saunders Road, Plumstead
WELBROCK, Martin Head Married M 39 1852 Engine Fitter
Bethnal Green
London
WELBROCK, Louisa Wife Married F 37 1854
Bridgwater
Somersetshire
WELBROCK, Edith Daughter F 16 1875 Teacher Of Music
Deptford
London
WELBROCK, Minnie Daughter F 7 1884 Scholar
Westham
WELBROCK, Martie Daughter F 4 1887 Scholar
Plumstead
London
WELBROCK, Leah Daughter F 2 1889
Plumstead
London

David

David Report 5 May 2009 13:09

Yes trying to research Martin spelt WeLLbrock but the name is also listed in the Genes Reunited records as Wellbrook, so it becomes very confusing.
Stepney because I thought I would start in the early 1880's and find someone connected to the sugar bakers and came across martin wellbrock also spelt wellbrook born 1801 in Germany. Our ancestors are German and work from there. Ireland because there was thought in the family that she was Irish. probably wrong though

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 5 May 2009 13:07

looks like he married before he left

Marriages Dec 1872 (>99%)
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COLLINS George John St. Olave 1d 365
POPE Elizabeth Ann St. Olave 1d 365
Webber Louisa Jane St. Olave 1d 365
Welbrock Martin Henry St. Olave 1d 365

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 5 May 2009 13:03

So Martin Henry 1851 looks possible but father listed as Henry

1871 Address: Hyde Street, St Paul, Deptford
WELBROCK, Martin Henry Lodger M 19 1852 Middlesex
BOULTON, Henry Boarder M 60 1811 Middlesex

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 5 May 2009 12:52

So you actually researching Martin Welbrock c1853.
How did Stepney and Ireland come into you thinking?

David

David Report 5 May 2009 12:45

Christine this is all I know. Martin WELBROK arrived in Canterbury New Zealand in 1872 at the age of 19 on the "Pleiades" from London listed as a sugar baker. In 1877 he sailed to Invercargill and was known as Wellbrook or Wellbrock. He married in 1882 . His marriage cert says Martin Wellbrock and descendants are all Wellbrocks. His father is listed as Martin and mother Mary

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 5 May 2009 11:01

These are the siblings of Martin Thomas 1827

1. MARY ANN WELLBROOK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 07 AUG 1831 St Mary Whitechapel, Stepney, London, England

2. GEORGE WELLBROOK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 05 AUG 1827 St Mary Whitechapel, Stepney, London, England

3. MARTIN THOMAS WELLBROOK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 05 AUG 1827 St Mary Whitechapel, Stepney, London, England

4. ROBERT HENRY WELLBROOK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 28 JUL 1833 St Mary Whitechapel, Stepney, London, England

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 5 May 2009 10:56

David
How did you arrive at Martin, Do you have other info regarding siblings children etc,? Or is he a spouse of someone in your tree? I have looked for anything related to Martin and born Stepney but I have not come up with obvious links, Why do you think he may have married in Ireland. I think you know more than you are telling. You have certainly not given me anything to link him to.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 5 May 2009 10:48

I am not sure that the 1852 Matrin is his son

MARTIN HENRY WELBROOK Pedigree
Male
Event(s):
Birth: 24 DEC 1851

Christening: 08 FEB 1852 Saint Andrew, Bethnal Green, London, England

Parents:
Father: HENRY WELBROOK Family
Mother: MARY ANN
Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
Source Information:
Batch No.: :

C037601

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 5 May 2009 10:43

could this be his father

1841bAddress: Fieldgate Street, St Mary Whitechapel, Tower Hamlets
BUCK, Henry M 25 1816 Middlesex VIEW
FUSELER, Clous M 40 1801 Foreign VIEW
WALBROOK, Martin M 40 1801 Foreign VIEW
SEAGAR, Clous M 25 1816 Foreign VIEW
SCHODE, Fruend M 35 1806 Foreign VIEW
SCHROEDER, Titiar M 20 1821 Foreign VIEW
MULLER, Luar M 25 1816 Foreign VIEW
SCRODER, Carstan M 20 1821 Foreign VIEW
OLESHARE, John M 20 1821 Foreign VIEW
WALLACE, John M 27 1814 Foreign VIEW
MOLTON, Gifford M 20 1821 Foreign VIEW
HOLLINGS, John M 20 1821 Foreign VIEW
MUREHOUS, Clous M 25 1816 Foreign VIEW
WILSHANDSON, Henry M 45 1796 Foreign

Ricochet

Ricochet Report 5 May 2009 10:40

Buy the death cert, to find out who registered it.