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Patricia
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30 Oct 2010 08:58 |
Trying to find connections to Christopher Prest who arrived in Australia 1872. Travelling with him were Elizabeth, Jane, John and Martha.
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30 Oct 2010 09:24 |
Do you mean connections from country left behind, or what happened to all of them? Any ages? Thanks
Added, Sorry, I am different Patricia, not original Patricia (for clarification)
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MeJoy75
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30 Oct 2010 09:48 |
Patricia
Is this your Christopher, found the following on NSW bdm
marriage
Reg No/Year Surname Given Name Spouses Surname Name District
4289/1878 Prest Christopher C Seaton Charlotte Orange
and death
Reg No/Year Surname Name Fathers Name Mothers Name District
3513/1919 Prest Christopher C William Isabella Blayney
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30 Oct 2010 14:49 |
For info;
View Record Name Birth Year Port of Arrival Arrival Date Ship Name View Record Christopher Prest abt 1839 Rockhampton 22 Dec 1875 View Record Elizabeth Prest abt 1839 Rockhampton 22 Dec 1875 View Record Jane Prest abt 1858 Rockhampton 22 Dec 1875 View Record John Prest abt 1859 Rockhampton 22 Dec 1875 View Record Martha Prest abt 1863 Rockhampton 22 Dec 1875
Their Port of Departure: London, England
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30 Oct 2010 15:06 |
James Zannetti >>Spouse Name: Martha Prest Marriage Date: 6 Jul 1889 Marriage Place: Queensland Registration Place: Queensland Registration Year: 1889 Registration Number: 001979 Page Number: 16434
Children
Fanny Zanetti 1888 James, Martha Queensland>>>Birth registered 1889 Catherine Jane Zanetti 1889 James, Martha Queensland James Zanetti 1890 James, Martha Queensland
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MeJoy75
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30 Oct 2010 23:10 |
More children born to James & Martha
Reg # Given Name Surname Fathers Name Mothers Name
1899/C2021 Margaret Zannetti James Martha Prest
1895/C2166 Martha Hill Zannetti James Martha Prest
1897/C2062 Mary Zannetti James Martha Prest
1901/C1830 Ann Theresa Zannetti James Martha Prest
1902/C10783 Thomas Joseph Zannetti James Martha Prest
and deaths
Reg # Name Surname Fathers Name Mothers Name
1897/C903 John Zannetti James Zannetti Martha Prest
1914/C3878 Thomas Joseph James Zannetti Martha Prest
????????Possible deaths of Martha and James
1917/C4552 Martha Zannetti
1919/C1063 James Zannetti James Zannetti Catherine Rodda
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MeJoy75
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30 Oct 2010 23:47 |
Children of Christopher & Charlotte
Reg No/Yr Surname Name Fathers Name Mothers Name District 21338/1880 Prest Allen Christopher C Charlotte Orange 28590/1883 Prest Elsie Isabel Christopher Charles Charlotte Orange
and deaths
Reg No/Yr Surname Name Fathers Name Mothers Name District 26510/1968 Goodman Elsie Isabel Christopher Charlotte Blayney 5190/1954 Prest Allen Christopher Charles Charlotte Orange
15247/1923 Prest Charlotte Joseph Ann Millthorpe
Reg No/Yr Surname Name Spouses Surname Name District 2489/1911 Goodman John H L Prest Elsie I Orange
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MeJoy75
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31 Oct 2010 08:53 |
Sent Patricia a PM to return to thread
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Patricia
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1 Nov 2010 01:43 |
Any connection would be great. Christopher was 36 when he came out to Australia in 1875 (I got the date wrong on orig. posting). Elizabeth 36, Jane 17, John 16 Martha 13 came with him under the name of Prest. Elizabeth was previously married to William Bainbridge and the three children belong to him, all born in Yorkshire. Elizabeth died soon after arriving and Christopher certified on her death certificate that he was her husband of 7 years, his profession being a Groom and that they had been married at Ripon. If Christopher married Elizabeth 7 years prior to her death that would have been in 1869 but 1871 cencus places William, Elizabeth, John and Martha all living in Quarry Cottage, Northowram,Yorkshire, Wm's profession being Groom. I can find no record of William's death and no record of C&E's marriage. Wm and Elizabeth were married at Ripon. This is a mystery family. I have no idea where Christopher went after Elizabeth's death. Martha kept the name Prest but Jane and John reverted to Bainbridge. Any news of a connection to Christopher Prest or the death of William Bainbridge would be a help.
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Patricia
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1 Nov 2010 01:59 |
Thank you for all that info. I did have most of it. Do you have a connection to Martha or James? I appreciate your sharing with me. Regards, Patricia.
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SylviaInCanada
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1 Nov 2010 03:28 |
so as a recap, and to help me get my head around the family.
Is this the 1871 census for the Bainbridges?
1871 Census
Name: Elizabeth Bainbridge Age: 32 Estimated birth year: abt 1839 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: William Bainbridge Gender: Female Where born: Swinton, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Northowram Ecclesiastical parish: Coley County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Halifax Sub-registration district: Northowram
William Bainbridge 42 b.ca 1829, Nystephen, Westmorland, Coachman & Domestic Servant Elizabeth Bainbridge 32 Jane Bainbridge 13 b.ca 1858, Harest Moor, Knasborough, Yorkshire, Winder at Worsted Manufactury John Bainbridge 11 b.ca 1860, Harest Moor, Bobbin Setter at Worsted Manufactury Martha Bainbridge 7 b.ca 1864, Maningham Bradford, Yorkshire, Scholar
Address:- Quarry House Cottage
THIS Christopher Prest is on the 1871 census ....... with a wife called Elizabeth?? And he's a Groom
1871 Census
Name: Christopher Prest Age: 46 Estimated birth year: abt 1825 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Elizabeth Prest Gender: Male Where born: Azerley, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Azerley Ecclesiastical parish: Kirkby Malzeard Town: Galphay County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Ripon Sub-registration district: Kirkby Malzeard
Christopher Prest 46 Coachman & Groom Elizabeth Prest 42 b.ca 1829, Ashill, Norfolk
Address:- Galphay (??sp) Village
NAH .... rule him out .... they're still there in 1891
I'm wondering if Elizabeth just left William, and moved in with Christopher?
Dvivorce was practically impossible in those days for most people.
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1 Nov 2010 03:39 |
The other wild possibility ......... and I HAVE come across this before
is that WIlliam Bainbridge became Christopher Prest for some reason .....
That they emigrated under that name,
and then possibly reverted back to Bainbridge after Elizabeth's death
sylvia
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Patricia
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1 Nov 2010 07:02 |
Sylvia, I am just getting used to how these Thread postings work. Thank you for your input. Yes you found the Bainbridge family in the 1871 census. I thought that maybe Elizabeth ran off with Christopher Prest but not having found William on any further census records or in any death records have also thought that William and Christopher is one in the same but do not know how to prove it. Wouldn't William have had to have some ID before travelling and why would he have changed his name and not the names of the rest of the family? He must have committed some terrible crime to have gone to such lengths. What are your thoughts on this. Patricia.
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MeJoy75
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1 Nov 2010 07:51 |
Patricia,
Maybe someone with access to the 1841 Census can tell you who William was living with, hopefully it will tell you who his parents were.
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Patricia
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1 Nov 2010 08:15 |
Mel75, William Bainbridge's father as far as I know was Isaac. I have no idea who his mother was. William's marriage certificate states that his father was Isaac..Nail Maker. William married Elizabeth Hill in the Ripon Cathedral Nov 23 1857. The 1851 Census has him living with his brother, John Bainbridge, Nailer and his nephew Isaac and niece Elizabeth. I haven't had any success finding him on the 1841 census. The 1861 census has him living in Harrogate with Elizabeth, Jane and John...Here he is listed as..Coachman. Patricia.
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Ozibird
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1 Nov 2010 08:27 |
Isn't this him? Nailer's App. John is a Nailer.
1841 England Census Name: Wm Bainbury [Wm Bainbridge] Age: 15 Estimated birth year: abt 1826 Gender: Male Where born: Westmorland, England Civil Parish: Kirkby Stephen Hundred: East County/Island: Westmorland Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Registration district: East Ward Sub-registration district: Kirkby Stephen Household Members: Name Age John Bainbury 40 Judeth Bainbury 40 - not born in county William G Bainbury 41 [Image is 14] John Bainbury 11 Isaac Bainbury 8 Elizabeth Bainbury 6 Wm Bainbury 15 Lodging with them is Martha Thiry abt 1767 Kirkby Stephen, Westmorland [image could be Story] - not born in county.
IGI Individual Record JOHN BAINBRIDGE Marriages: Spouse: JUDITH STORY Marriage: 24 JAN 1826 Kirkby Stephen, Westmorland, England Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date. Source Information: Batch No.: M067071 Dates: 1746 - 1837, 1837 - 1861
IGI Individual Record WILLIAM GEORGE BAINBRIDGE Christening: 23 APR 1827 Kirkby Stephen, Westmorland, England Parents: Father: JOHN BAINBRIDGE Mother: JUDAH [I bet this is Judith] Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: C067071 Dates: 1746 - 1767, 1768 - 1813, 1813 - 1843, 1844 - 1861
Results for: British Isles Father: John Bainbridge, Mother: Judith Batch Number: C067071 1. ELIZABETH BAINBRIDGE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 19 OCT 1834 Kirkby Stephen, Westmorland, England 2. JOHN BAINBRIDGE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 25 OCT 1829 Kirkby Stephen, Westmorland, England 3. ISAAC BAINBRIDGE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 12 AUG 1832 Kirkby Stephen, Westmorland, England
Updated: I believe the christening record is for John & Judith's eldest son William George. Your William is listed after the children on the census. It looks like your William is a very much younger brother. Perhaps a second marriage for Isaac.
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MeJoy75
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1 Nov 2010 08:47 |
Oh well, not the same parents as listed on Christophers death record.
Ozibird, can you find Christopher C Prest on the 1841 Census?
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Ozibird
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1 Nov 2010 08:51 |
I've looked and looked for him over the last couple of days with no luck. Some possibilities but no definites. I'll check again.
Ozi
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Patricia
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1 Nov 2010 08:53 |
Ozibird, Certainly sounds like it is my William but it is very confusing as on his Marriage Certificate it states that his father was Isaac...Nail Maker. Could that have been such a mistake? Big difference between John and Isaac. Patricia.
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Ozibird
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1 Nov 2010 08:54 |
This looks like yours:
IGI Individual Record WILLIAM BAINBRIDGE Christening: 21 SEP 1823 Kirkby Stephen, Westmorland, England Parents: Father: ISAAC BAINBRIDGE Mother: ELIZTH
Batch info as before.
I've got to go now but will check back later.
Ozi
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