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Trying to find info on any or all of the above from Essex, England.
I have Emma's Marriage Certificate to Isaac Maskell, one census after marriage and their children, first seven born in Farnham, eighth in Hayles (Hazel) End and last one born in Australia. Emma died in Australia in September, 1863.
Any info or leads on William and Eliza (maiden name unkown) will be appreciated.
Diane (2nd G Grandchild of Emma)

You need to add a surname, Diane.

You put this post on a particular surname board, where you could see the surname.

99.9% of the people reading the post are seeing it on the general Trying to Find, where -- yes, believe it or not, this is how the system works -- the surname is not shown.

There's no marriage of an Isaac Maskell or Mask* to an Emma in the GRO.

http://www.freebmd.org.uk

So I can't even discover Emma's surname. ;)


Btw -- if you had told us *which* census you have them in, and maybe the odd birthdate, it would have saved me (and anybody else who might also be taking a stab at your question and hasn't posted) a fair bit of time ...

Okey dokey. In 1881:


Name: Isaac Maskell
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emma E.
Gender: Male
Where born: Compton, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Hayes
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Ag Lab

Registration district: Uxbridge
Sub registration district: Hayes
ED, institution, or vessel: 5

Charles T. Maskell 6
Eliza S. Maskell 9
Ellen E. Maskell 4
Emma Maskell 2
Emma E. Maskell 39
George Maskell
Isaac Maskell 34


That'll be them?


Edit ... it can't be them, because you say your Emma died in 1863.

So any chance of letting on which census you see them in??

Emma in 1881:

Name: Emma E. Maskell
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Isaac
Gender: Female
Where born: Streetley, Buckinghamshire, England


Here's the problem.


Marriages Sep 1870
Goff Charlotte Henley 3a 789
Maskell Isaac Henley 3a 789 Scan
Tubbs Ezra Henley 3a 789


A bride has been mistranscribed and is missing. I shall go check ...

Well, for the Isaac Maskell marriage I did find, Sept quarter 1870 in Henley, this is the bride:


BAILEY Emma Elizabeth Henley 3a 7[_8]9


Will just have to wait for some date info now ...

I don't suppose this is of any relevance ..

14920/1893 (death)
MASKELL EMILY
father WILLIAM
mother ELIZA
WATERLOO NSW

Hi Kath


see you're doing some sleuthing!!


Hope you're well. We're just back from England ...... no real sleuthing there, except for finding 3 or 4 graves and headstones that cleared up some date queries!


sylvia

Congratulations!

Not going to clear up my date queries here? ;)

This is an odd one ...

Kath

In the title beedan says that Emma was born 1818


could that mean that she married Isaac Maskell around 1837 or so?

Then she says that the first 7 children were born in Farnham ....... that's Surrey isn't it??

The 8th was born in Hayles (Hazel) End, and the 9th in Australia


I'll see if I can find anyhting different to what you've found!




sylvia

NO

Farnham is apparently Essex, according to ancestry!

Oh Lord


There's Farnham, Suffolk

Farnham, Surrey

Farnham, Essex

Farnham Royal, Buckinghamshire

Tollard Farnham, Dorset





!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

nothing!


nada!!!






wonder if beedan will return?

Yeah, I wonder too.

The title info just makes no sense, given the completely matching info for the Maskell household I found. Everything fits, except that everybody's a generation younger. So I'm hoping for some response ...

The children in that 1881 household I reproduced to begin with were mostly born in Hillingden, Essex, and the youngest was aborn in Hayes, which is where they're living.

There are only a few Maskell births in Farnham in the GRO: 1863, 1872, 1898, 1902, 1906, 1908, 1911, 1913. Don't really seem to fit.

"I have Emma's Marriage Certificate to Isaac Maskell, one census after marriage and their children, first seven born in Farnham, eighth in Hayles (Hazel) End and last one born in Australia. Emma died in Australia in September, 1863."

-- does seem to fit the 1861 household ... except for the dates ...

I think I will send her a message!

Kath,

I have just sent a message .......... hopefully she will now return to this thread and give us some more clues!



sylvia

Isaac Maskell born 1 September, 1811 in Farnham, Essex, died 1 July, 1892 in East Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
Emma Savill born about 1818 believed to be in Essex England, died 10 September, 1863 in Springfield, Victoria, Australia.
Isaac & Emma married 31 December 1835 in Farnham Essex.
Children starting with
Charles DOB 3/7/36,
Ellen DOB 14/1/38,
Mary Ann DOB 26/1/39,
Linda DOB 30/1/41,
Abraham 10/4/42
Emma 14/4/44
George 18/4/46
all above born Farnham essex England
Arthur William 3/6/49 born Hazel End, Farnham Essex
Jane 27/5/54 born Farnham Essex
Isaac James Henry 6/8/49 St Kilda Victoria.
Ellen married Charles Bayford in 1857 and remained in England rest of family emmigrated to Australia departing England 5 June, 1857.
The 1841 England Census has Isaac, Emma and children Charles, Ellen and Mary Ann resident at Hayle End (later called Hazel End), Farnham, Essex, with Isaac's employment listed as agricultural labourer. At the time of the 1851 England Census, Isaac, Emma and Charles, Ellen, Mary Ann, Linda, Emma, George and Arthur were resident in the Bishop's Stortford Poor Union Workhouse in Bishop's Stortford, Hertfordshire.
Emma's (Wife) Death Certificate shows her father's name as William Savill (Savell) occupation Publican and her mother as Eliza (maiden name unknown)
I apologise to all who have tried to assist in my search for William and Eliza and must say that I have led myself up the garden path a dozen times in trying to get back to William and Eliza
1941 Census: HO107; Piece 327; Book: 3; Civil Parish: Farnham; County: Essex; Enumeration District: 6; Folio: 14; Page 20 (at the bottom) is census for Isaac & Emma

Just a note: the marriage certificate has Isaac as Mascall not Maskell, which I believe was common mis-spelling at the time

For reference purposes


1841 Census (from ancestry.co.uk)

Name: Isaac Markell <<<<< MASKELL on image
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Male
Where born: Essex, England

Civil Parish: Farnham
Hundred: Clavering
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Registration district: Bishops Stortford
Sub registration district: Bishops Stortford
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
.
.
Charles Markell 5
Ellen Markell 3
Emma Markell 22
Isaac Markell 25
Mariam Markell 1
.
.
.


Emma NOT BORN in Essex, all others born in county.


sylvia

1851 Census


Only Emma and baby Alfred shown on image????


Name: Emma Mascall
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Female
Where born: Farnham

Civil Parish: Bishops Stortford
Ecclesiastical parish: Rochester
Town: Bishops Stortford
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Registration district: Bishop Stortford
Sub registration district: Sawbridgeworth
ED, institution, or vessel: Union Workhouse Bishop Stortford
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
.
.

Newton Lovett 6
Thos Lovett 11
Arthur Mascall 1
Emma Mascall 33 Married
Ann Miller 27
John Neuman 12
Joshua Newman 6
.
.
.


so where are the other members of the family???



sylvia

????? Charles in 1851????


1851 Census

Name: Charles Maskall
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Male
Where born: Farnham, Essex, England

Civil Parish: Farnham
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Registration district: Bishop Stortford
Sub registration district: Sawbridgeworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 1c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 103
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Maskall 15 Pauper
Elizabeth Williams 3
Emma Williams 2 Mo
James Williams 13
John Williams 11
Mary Ann Williams 10
Susan Williams 39
Thomas Williams 35 Ag Lab
William Williams 8

Address:- Hayel End


sylvia