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Hello all could anyone please help me find the Scarlett family i have them in 1851 in Willenhall Road Wolverhampton, they are Thomas his wife Phebe & son Edward born 1833 in Leominster Herefordshire many thanks Carol.

here's Pheobe in 1881 if you need it

Phoebe SCARLETT Head W Female 64 Hales Owen, Worcester, England Annuitant
Mary ASTON Lodger W Female 77 Birmingham, Warwick, England Annuitant
Thomas HUGHES Lodger U Male 32 Flint, Wales Joiner


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Source Information:
Dwelling 9 Jeddo St
Census Place Wolverhampton, Stafford, England
Family History Library Film 1341669
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2795 / 15
Page Number 24

1881 - connected?

Edward C. SCARLET Head M Male 29 Leominster, Hereford, England J P Herefordshire & Brewer
Martha SCARLET Wife M Female 24 Cheltenham, Gloucester, England Brewer Wife
John E.H. SCARLET Son Male 2 Leominster, Hereford, England
Jane EVANS Serv U Female 27 Titley, Hereford, England Cook (Dom)
Jane LANGLEY Serv U Female 26 Oxburgh, Norfolk, England Housemaid
Alice M. BRADLEY Serv U Female 15 Monmouth, England Nurse Maid


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Source Information:
Dwelling 38 South St
Census Place Leominster, Hereford, England
Family History Library Film 1341627
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2604 / 94
Page Number 23

wonder if this is a connection?

Edward Charles Scarlett Compact Disc #128 Pin #1409663 Pedigree
Sex: M

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Event(s)
Birth: 16 Nov 1796

, Hereford, England
Death: 16 Feb 1859

Harwich, Kent, Ontario, Canada

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Parents
Father: John Alfred Scarlett Disc #128 Pin #1405488
Mother: Elizabeth Loella Meredith Disc #128 Pin #1405489

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Marriage(s)
Spouse: Catherine Fields Disc #128 Pin #1409453
Marriage: 20 May 1819
Harwich, Kent, Ontario, Canada

Thanks Ann i had found that one i am tryin to find out if Edward had brothers or sisters.

1851 just for info

Name: Edward Scarlett
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1833
Relation: Son
Father's name: Thomas Scarlett
Mother's name: Phebe Scarlett
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Leominster, Herefordshire, England

Civil Parish: Wolverhampton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration district: Wolverhampton Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: 1v
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 83
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Scarlett 30 - Leominster, Herefordshire
Phebe Scarlett 36 - Halesowen, Shropshire
Ellen Scarlett 60
Edward Scarlett 18



Struggling with 1841 at the moment

Just wondering if this is second marriage for Thomas given that he and Edward were born in leominster

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1843 (>99%)
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>>>Allen Phoebe Wolverhampton 17 290
Baker Job Smith Wolverhampton &c 17 290
BANKS Eliza Wolverhampton 17 290
HOLMES Mary Ann Wolverhampton &c. 17 290
JELSOM Martha Wolverhampton &c. 17 290
PRICE Joseph Wolverhampton 17 290
>>>SCARLETT Thomas Wolverhampton 17 290
WALKER James Wolverhampton 17 290

Thanks for your replies, do you think Thomas is older than 30 as he would of been 12 when Edward was born

Thanks Mac it looks like that could be the one so this must b a second marriae

1841 just posting this one for two reasons -location - Ellen/Eleanor from1851

Name: Edward Scarlet
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Gender: Male

Civil Parish: Wolverhampton
Hundred: North Seisdon and East Cuttlestone and South Offlow
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration district: Wolverhampton Western
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Elenor Scarlet 45 - not born in county
John Scarlet 20
Sofiat Scarlet 15
Eliza Scarlet 13
Mary Scarlet 10
Edward Scarlet 5 - not born in county

Class: HO107; Piece 1000; Book: 5; Civil Parish: Wolverhampton; County: Staffordshire; Enumeration District: 11; Folio: 39; Page: 29; Line: 12; GSU roll: 474627.

PHOEBE ALLEN Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 17 NOV 1822 Halesowen, Worcester, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: JOSEPH ALLEN Family
Mother: MARY

From IGI. Could be Edward was her son (and born Allen?), and not the son of Thomas. Could do with finding 1861 census to confirm Thomas's age.

Edit, forget this, she would have been too young to be Edward's mother, sorry.

1861 just for info
Name: Thomas Scarlett
Age: 43
Estimated birth year: abt 1818
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Phobe Scarlett
Gender: Male
Where born: Leominster, Herefordshire, England

Civil Parish: Wolverhampton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration district: Wolverhampton Western
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 103
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Scarlett 43
Phobe Scarlett 45

I have looked at the 1851 image...........

Do you not think that Edward is, in fact, Ellen's (image says Eleanor) son??

Eleanor is a widow and marked as 'brother's wife' (Thomas's brother's wife).

Edward IS marked as 'son', but is underneath Eleanor and it could mean he is 'her' son.

This would be Eleanor, I believe in 1841 and she does have a son called Edward............

1841 England Census
about Elenor Scarlet Name: Elenor Scarlet
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1796
Gender: Female

Civil Parish: Wolverhampton
Hundred: North Seisdon and East Cuttlestone and South Offlow
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration district: Wolverhampton Western
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Elenor Scarlet 45
John Scarlet 20
Sofiat Scarlet 15
Eliza Scarlet 13
Mary Scarlet 10
Edward Scarlet 5

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 1000; Book: 5; Civil Parish: Wolverhampton; County: Staffordshire; Enumeration District: 11; Folio: 39; Page: 29; Line: 7; GSU roll: 474627.

What do you think?

Dea x

Thank you all for your help its very much appreciated

Edward Scarlet

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
residence: Leominster, Hereford, England
parents: William Scarlet, Eleanor Scarlet

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Edward Scarlet
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 18 Mar 1832
baptism/christening place: Leominister, Hereford, England
father's name: William Scarlet
mother's name: Eleanor Scarlet
indexing project (batch) number: I03219-9
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1593747

From Beta site on family search. Looks like Dea could be right, well thought out!

Yes Dea that does make sense is there anyway to find out who her husband was

Thank you mac - you seem to have found the birth details to confirm.

Dea x

There is this marriage on IGI but it is 'submitted' so may not be accurate?

WILLIAM SCARLETT
Marriages:
Spouse: ELEANOR COLE Family
Marriage: 1813 Leominster, Hereford, England


Form submitted by a member of the LDS Church.

Dea x

Thank you so much that is fabulous

You are welcome Carol

Dea x