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Possible birth for William?
Name: William Scarlet
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 12 Nov 1788
Baptism/Christening Place: LEOMINSTER,HEREFORD,ENGLAND
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Father's Name: William Scarlet
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Mother's Name: Ann
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Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C14610-4
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: unknown
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Eleanor Scarlett is on the 1861 census as a widow, born c1894 Kinnersley, but on the earlier census she was born c1891. If so, I think this birth could confirm Dea's marriage?

Name: Eleanor Cole
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 15 Aug 1790
Baptism/Christening Place: KINNERSLEY,HEREFORD,ENGLAND
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Father's Name: John Cole
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Mother's Name: Milbrow
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Indexing Project (Batch) Number: K13898-2
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 1040199
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Just one thing puzzling me here.............

The info which mac has found re William born c1788 and Eleanor b c 1890 looks very good to fit with that marriage around 1813.

This though leaves us (from what it says on 1851 census) with brothers William c 1788 and Thomas born c 1821 ??????????

Looks too big a gap to me?

On exploring, I have found these 2 brothers with the same names etc:

Thomas Scarlett

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
residence: Leominster, Hereford, England
parents: William Scarlett, Eleanor Scarlett

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Thomas Scarlett
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 19 Apr 1818
baptism/christening place: Leominster, Hereford, England
father's name: William Scarlett
mother's name: Eleanor Scarlett
indexing project (batch) number: I03219-7
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1593747
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William Scarlet

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
residence: Leominster, Hereford, England
parents: William Scarlet, Eleanor Scarlet

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: William Scarlet
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 27 Mar 1814
baptism/christening place: Leominster, Hereford, England
father's name: William Scarlet
mother's name: Eleanor Scarlet
indexing project (batch) number: I03220-1
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1593747

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However, this would mean that the relationship on 1851 should not have been brother's wife but 'Mother' !!

This does not make sense!

Of course, Thomas could have had a father William AND a brother William, who both married Eleanor's, BUT that would not account for Eleanor's age and details on 1851 to fit the one marrying his father!

What am I missing here?

Heeellp!!

Dea x

I don't think you're missing anything Dea, think you are right and Willam Scarlett and Eleanor Cole are the parents of both Thomas and Edward.

On the 1841 census for Eleanor, she had children John (20 christened 1815), Sofia (15 ch 1826), Eliza (13 ch 1827), Mary Ann (10 ch. 1829) and Edward (5 ch 1832). Likelyhood older children William (1814) and Thomas (1818) had already left home. All the christenings were in Leominster, but the census does not have all the names right.

Maybe the census is the confusing issue here and there was a misunderstanding whilst collecting the information?

Mac

Thank you mac - I thought I was going mad there!

It does seem that the census info does not match the facts?

Dea x

Hi Dea & Mac, sorry had unexpected visitors just read all the new info thank you both very very much Carol.

No problem, glad to try to help, keeps me from doing the housework!
Mac