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David

David Report 28 Dec 2009 19:13

hi
i have a death cert for my great grandmother eliza searle widow of daniel searle
this was in 1876 present at the death was elizabeth chapple
also informant she is given as a cousin of the deceased
which i beleve to be either elizas or her belated husband so if anyone can assist in tracing elizabeth chapple would be appreciated

TheLadyInRed

TheLadyInRed Report 28 Dec 2009 19:22

David, where did the death take place? Need as much info as you've got to be able to find her.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 28 Dec 2009 19:25

Do you know if Elizabeth Chapple was married? If not we don't know if Chapple was her maiden or married name.

David

David Report 28 Dec 2009 19:27

julie
thank you for reply
registation district axminster sub district colyton county of devon
dec 9th 1876 beer devon eliza searle aged 65 widow of daniel searle informant & present at the death elizabeth chapple cousin of the deceased

David

David Report 28 Dec 2009 19:29

margaret
good point no i dont know if married or not which does not help much

TheLadyInRed

TheLadyInRed Report 28 Dec 2009 19:34

possible in 1871?

Name Elizabeth Chapple
Age 41
Estimated Year of Birth 1830
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation Honiton Lacemaker
Address Clapps Lane
District Axminster, Colyton
Parish
Administrative County Devon
Birth Place Beer
Birth County Devonshire

David

David Report 28 Dec 2009 19:36

julie that looks promising
thank you

TheLadyInRed

TheLadyInRed Report 28 Dec 2009 19:38

and 1881?

1881 England Census
about Elizth Chapple
Name: Elizth Chapple
Age: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Absolom
Gender: Female
Where born: Beer, Devon, England

Civil parish: Seaton and Beer
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address: East Side of Beer Street
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Lacemaker

Registration district: Axminster
Sub-registration district: Colyton
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Absolom Chapple 50
Elizth Chapple 50
Thirza Chapple 14
Silas Chapple 12




David

David Report 28 Dec 2009 19:39

julie
i think we are on the right tracks
thank you

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 28 Dec 2009 19:54

Unfortunately the two women's birth surnames don't provide any clues and in fact we can't even be sure from the marriage registration info what they were, lol.

Marriages Jun 1853 (>99%)
>> Chappel Absalom Axminster 5b 19
Oldridge Timothy Thomas Axminster 5b 19
?? Seaward Elizabeth Axminster 5b 19
?? Turner Elizabeth Axminster 5b 19

Marriages Dec 1840 (>99%)
(??) HOLMES Elizabeth Axminster 10 13
JENKINS Sarah Axminster 10 13
MAJOR James Axminster 10 13
ORLEY William Axminster 10 13
?? PARTRIDGE Eliza Axminster 10 13
Pierce Harriot Axminster 10 13
POTTER John Axminster 10 13
?? SEARLE Daniel Axminster 10 13

TheLadyInRed

TheLadyInRed Report 28 Dec 2009 19:57

in 1891 Absolom is shown as being a widower:
1891 England Census
about Absalam Chapple
Name: Absalam Chapple
Age: 61
Estimated birth year: abt 1830
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Beer, Devon, England

Civil parish: Seaton and Beer
Ecclesiastical parish: Seaton and Beer
Town: Beer
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Axminster
Sub-registration district: Colyton
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Absalam Chapple 61
Silas Chapple 21


BUT: there is also an Eliza Chapple shown as being a widow, aged 68 who is a lacemaker:
1891 England Census
about Eliza Chapple
Name: Eliza Chapple
Age: 68
Estimated birth year: abt 1823
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Seaton and Beer, Devon, England

Civil parish: Seaton and Beer
Ecclesiastical parish: Seaton and Beer
Town: Beer
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Axminster
Sub-registration district: Colyton
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza Chapple 68
Elizabeth Bartlett 23

and her next door neighbour is Elizabeth Chapple shown as head of household and married but living alone, also a lacemaker







David

David Report 28 Dec 2009 19:59

thank you

David

David Report 28 Dec 2009 20:00

julie
thank you

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 28 Dec 2009 20:08

Still trying to find a surname connection here!

If Eliza was Partridge (you need the Daniel Searle marriage certificate, or please tell us if you know Eliza's surname)

ELIZA PARTRIDGE
Christening:
08 DEC 1811 Seaton And Beer, Devon, England
Parents:
Father: JACOB PARTRIDGE
Mother: ELIZABETH
Source Information:
Batch No.: C051991


JACOB PARTRIDGE
Marriages:
Spouse: ELIZABETH BOOLS
Marriage: 05 SEP 1811 Seaton And Beer, Devon, England
Source Information:
Batch No.: M051991


I think if you want to discover the family relationship between Eliza and Elizabeth you will need to get their marriage certificates so you know both their surnames for certain.

If Elizabeth Chapple was Elizabeth Seaward, she was christened 1830 in Seaton and Beer and her parents were Robert Seaward and Hannah Batten married Seaton and Beer 1824, it seems.

If she was Elizabeth Turner, she was christened 1829 in Seaton and Beer and her parents were Robert Turner and AHA AHA Frances Partridge married Seaton and Beer 1825.

I think that is the cousinship.

Elizabeth Chapple was Elizabeth Turner 1829 the daughter of Frances Partridge.

Eliza Searle was Eliza Partridge 1811.

David

David Report 28 Dec 2009 20:14

hi
eliza partridge & daniel searle are my 2x great grandparents i have thier marr cert
her parents my 3 x great grandparents

David

David Report 28 Dec 2009 20:16

thank you traced the cousin relationship now

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 28 Dec 2009 20:17

Good, she was Partridge, so I think we can be sure that is the family connection! What exactly it was ... I am still hunting in the IGI.

David

David Report 28 Dec 2009 20:22

thank you

David

David Report 28 Dec 2009 20:25

is frances partridge the sister of my 2x great grandmother eliza i havent got her on my tree

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 28 Dec 2009 20:27

I think this would be Frances Partridge mother of Elizabeth Turner Chapple

FRANCES PARTRIDGE
Christening:
15 JAN 1809 Seaton And Beer, Devon, England
Parents:
Father: MALACHI PARTRIDGE
Mother: REBECCA
(Rebecca Bools married in 1806)
Source Information:
Batch No.: C051991


Children of Malachi Partridge and Susannah

Partridge, British Isles
Father: Malachi , Mother: Susannah
Batch Number: C051991

1. FANNY PARTRIDGE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 09 DEC 1792 Seaton And Beer, Devon, England
>>> this could be the Frances who was mother of Elizabeth Turner Chapple

2. JACOB PATRIDGE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 07 JUL 1784 Seaton And Beer, Devon, England
>>> father of Eliza Partridge Searle

3. JAMES PARTRIDGE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 11 OCT 1789 Seaton And Beer, Devon, England
4. HENRY PARTRIDGE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 23 FEB 1787 Seaton And Beer, Devon, England

5. MALACHI PATRIDGE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 08 NOV 1778 Seaton And Beer, Devon, England
>>> father of Frances who was christened in 1809

6. JOHN PATRIDGE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 29 MAY 1776 Seaton And Beer, Devon, England
7. ELIZABETH PARTRIDGE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 17 APR 1796 Seaton And Beer, Devon, England
8. SUSANNAH PATRIDGE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 09 SEP 1781 Seaton And Beer, Devon, England


So Elizabeth Turner Chapple's mother Frances Partridge was
either
Fanny the sister of Eliza Partridge Searle's father Jacob
or
Frances the daughter of Eliza Partridge Searle's father's brother Malachi

!!

And there may be a Bools relationship too

Eliza Partridge Searle's mother was Elizabeth Bools
If Elizabeth Turner Chapple's mother was Frances Partridge christened 1809, her grandmother was Rebecca Bools ... perhaps the sister of Elizabeth Bools Partridge ...