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Hi, i am looking for details of my great- great gran mother.
i have been unable to find birth or marriages Andoinia tomassi. my great gran was called Dorothy/ Dorothia tomassi born 23 jan 1910 in kingston upon thames and died 4 jul 1969 kingston surrey.she was married twice. 1st richard johnson, 2nd david morgan. unsure of exact dates but was married in kingston surrey found her mother Andonia tomassi and father ricardo g tomosa on her birth cert.she had several siblings, bett, joe, john,not sure of others or dates of birth. i suspect Andonia tomassi was from italy and born there sometime in c1880. i havent found any marriage/birth records for parents. On dorothy tomassi birth cert it states an admendment or a joining of parents names x placed next to name and tomasso richards at bottom of record. i cant find where andonia was born or married if at all. can anyone help


many thanks

Where was Dorothy born?

Have you found a marriage for her parents?

What was her married name

Can we assume that Dorothy was illegitimate?

Could you give the exact details from the birth cert, to clarify things.........thanks

Reg

I cant work out which is the mother and which is the father, so thats a good idea Reg, lol

Ann

Hi
Could this be the birth registration of Dorothy?
Maureen

View Record Name Year of Registration Quarter of Registration Mother's Maiden Name District County View Image
View Record

Andonia Tomasso 1910 Jan-Feb-Mar Kingston Middlesex, Surrey

I thought Andonia was her mother..........

Leaving this now, until the poster comes back with detailed info................

Moggie
Did you also see the other entry immediately above it
Ricardo Gerardo G Tomosa Holborn 1b 576
I dont know about you but I am finding this very confusing

Moggie
If that is Dorothy's birth registration why isnt her name mentioned?
Ann

Hi Whisky Soda

I was just thinking along the line that Dorothy might not have been the name she was born with, it sounds too English if her parents were Italian. My friend's father was registered as Evaristo, but was known in later life as Richard.
Maureen

Maureen
The whole thing is strange, we will have to leave it until the poster comes back
Ann

Not what you asked for ,but possibility a relative.....the details may lead you to more information about Dorothy.

Nationality and Naturalisation: Tomassi, Vincenzo, from Italy. Resident in Abertillery, Mon. Certificate AZ4144 issued 16 April 1934. . Nationality and Naturalisation: Tomassi, Vincenzo, from Italy. Resident in Abertillery, Mon. Certificate AZ4144 issued


Just for info....I just googled Andonia, and its another name for Andrew....so presumably the father not the mother!!!???

And Geraldo...... is Gerald.....???? 2 fathers????

Nicky

Just had a look at the census on Ancestry and it would appear that Andonia is both a male and female name.
Maureen

I'm confused just reading through this post because at the start of Pauline's message she says she has been unable to find any birth details - then it mentions those names found on the birth cert. Huh??

Pauline - do you already have the birth cert of Dorothy?

Athena

Nudged up .......Pauline has posted again.

Nicky

sorry didnt mean to wake you

Sorry Pauline, I dont understand what you mean by that

Ann

i got lost after i look at my great nan birt cert. i have confirmed with my only living decendent of tomasso that her mother was called Andonia Tomasso and her dad was Ricardo Gerardo G tomasoa but cant find any records of my great nans and great grandads birth there from Italy but where i dont know. many thanks for your help

Ok - but Pauline does your great nan's birth cert say Dorothy or Andonia as her name as we've only been able to find one for Andonia in 1910 in Kingston. So if her parents are down as Andonia and Ricardo then she may have been named after her mother but then known as Dorothy for the rest of her life?

What address was she born at and what is her father's occupation?