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Rachel

Rachel Report 8 Mar 2008 21:32

Wow! Thank you very much! It appears that Emma then went on and married to a Mr Sutton. Why would Emma's children have her maiden name though?

Nicki

Nicki Report 9 Mar 2008 07:38

I am now totally confused - how have we got to this?

Nicki

Ajwyorks

Ajwyorks Report 9 Mar 2008 10:06

Hi Rachel

You've got it the wrong way round for Emma.
She was born Emma Sutton, had George who I assume was illegitimate as he seems to be a Sutton, then she has Florence, Louisa and Eveline by James Moody although I cannot find a marriage nor birth registrations for any of the children - there is a baptism on the IGI for Eveline giving her father as James.
Whether James died or they just split up I wouldn't know as there is no way of telling which James Moody is the father.

Andy

Rachel

Rachel Report 9 Mar 2008 14:09

Hi Andy,

Thank you for clearing that point up - I was beginning to get a bit confused. There is a birth reference for Florence and I have ordered that certificate. I'm hoping that it will show me Emma's previous surname. I will keep you posted...

Rachel

Rachel Report 14 Mar 2008 18:11

What to do now?

I ordered the birth certificate for William Peart

PEART John William Louth 7a 549

and the names of the parents were not what I was expecting, so this was not the right reference.

I also ordered the certificate for Florence - however, it has her father's name as being William (it should be James) and the mother's maiden name was the same as her married name - Moody.

So, I am stuck. I need to find the right birth reference for William Peart and Florence, as well as the death cerificate for James.

Ajwyorks

Ajwyorks Report 14 Mar 2008 21:40

In 1891 William said he was born in Much March, Lincoln.
However if you remember I found this for you last year

1881

William Heart
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Pupil
Gender: Male
Where born: Much Marcle, Hereford, England

Civil Parish: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 22 Hardman St Blind School
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Basket Making

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: Mount Pleasant
ED, institution, or vessel: 24

I've removed all the names else it's too long

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 3624; Folio: 43; Page: 23; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341868.

so looking further
1871

William Peart
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Much Marcle, Herefordshire, England

Civil Parish: Much Marcle
Ecclesiastical parish: Ross
Town: Much Marcle
County/Island: Herefordshire
Country: England

Registration district: Ledbury
Sub-registration district: Yarkhill
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 41
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Peart 7
Emma Peart 13
George Peart 19
James Peart 15
Louisa Peart 5
Mary Peart 45 widow
Thomas Peart 17
William Peart 12

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 2684; Folio: 20; Page: 8; GSU roll: 835339.

William is noted as being nearly blind from birth as is his mother, Mary, and brother, George.


1861

William Peart
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: M Marcle, Herefordshire, England

Civil Parish: Much Marcle
County/Island: Herefordshire
Country: England

Registration district: Ledbury
Sub-registration district: Yarkhill
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 4
Household Members: Name Age
Emma Peart 4
George Peart 9
James Peart 5
Joseph Peart 43
Mary A Peart 36
Samuel Peart 3 Mo
Thomas Peart 7
William Peart 2

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 1811; Folio: 90; Page: 2; GSU roll: 542872.

so William's birth should be

William Peart
Year of Registration: 1859
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Ledbury
County: Herefordshire, Hereford and Worcester, Worcestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 430


I wonder if this is Eveline's birth

Eveline Moody
Year of Registration: 1870
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Liverpool (1837-1934)
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 195

and Louisa

Louisa Moody
Year of Registration: 1868
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Liverpool (1837-1934)
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 233


Florence???

Florence Sutton
Year of Registration: 1864
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: West Derby
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 522

Andy



Rachel

Rachel Report 15 Mar 2008 13:12

Hi Andy,

Thank you for your reply. I had not remembered to look at the birth reference for William which you found last year - just focused on the birth reference in this thread - oops!

I will request William's birth certificate - using the reference you have found, and Louisa's birth certificate.

It would appear that blindness ran in the family, as William's first 2 children were blind from birth, so William, his brother, his mother and his first 2 children were blind from birth.

Thank you once again for your help and patience - it is appreciated.

Regards

Rachel