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I have found William S Muir age 37, his wife Henrietta 35 & children Vivian 3 & Margaret 1 living in Wandsworth, London in the 1901 census but I can't make out what William's occupation is.

Could anyone have a look for me & see what you think?

Thanks everso much, Sue

Sent you a pm

Ann

Thanks for the pm Ann - wish I had a scanner then I would willingly scan it to you to have a look at.

I have sat for hours trying to make it out!!

Sue

I will have a look on line for you

Ann

Thank you Ann

Nurserymans clerk........are we on the same Muir?

Yes I think so - he was born in Margate, Henrietta born in Falmouth.

I could see it said clerk but couldn't make out the word before that - I was looking at the original as the transcriber on The Genealogist site as it as a load of gobbledy gook!!

What do you think a Nurserymans clerk is?

Well I would think it is some kind of book keeper, perhaps in market gardening/farming/flower growers a bit like todays farm shops! You get some really strange ones.....I saw one the other day A Fly Proprietor!

A Fly Proprietor!!?? Dare not even think about that one!!

Thanks for your help Ann, I'm going to try to find him in 1891 to see what his occupation was then, it might give us some clues

Sue

Sue,

The transcription on the official 1901 census is also Nurseryman's Clerk

http://www.1901census.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

Rose

Thanks Rose, that confirms it then - thats great

Sue

let me know what you come up with
Ann

Don't see him in 1891 but he was a seed merchant in 1881:

1881 Scotland Census
about William S Muir
Name: William S Muir
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relationship: Cousin
Gender: Male
Where born: England
Registration Number: 685/1
Registration district: St George
Civil Parish: St George
County: Midlothian
Address: 8 Saxe Coburg Place
Occupation: Seed Merchant'S Apprentice
ED: 110
Page: 5 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 16
Line: 23
Roll: cssct1881_283
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza Fairbairn 19
Elizth Fairbairn 60
Ann Kedzlie 18
Jane McLeod 18
Agnes Muir 62
Alice S Muir 20
Andrew W Muir 13
Arthur S Muir 22
Margaret E Muir 21
William S Muir 17


Rose

Looks like he was born in Greenwich, not Margate.

Births Sep 1863
MUIR William Stewart Greenwich 1d 577

Rose

Rose

Thank you soooooooo much, I can't find him in 1891 either - thats what I've been doing, looking at 1891 census.

A seed merchant, so Ann was correct when she said something to do with market gardening.

Also the birth you have found is correct as I was wondering if his second name was Stewart/Stenart as that was his son Vivian's second name and Vivian gave it to his daughter

You wouldn't be able to find out without too much trouble when William married Henrietta would you? Don't worry if I'm asking too much!! I think her maiden name was Cornish

Thank you

I don't see the marriage in England or Wales.

Perhaps they married in Scotland?

Rose

I'm guessing these are William's parents going by the names of the cousins listed with him in 1871 and 1881:

1861 Scotland Census
about James Muir
Name: James Muir
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Anna
Gender: Male
Where born: Edinburgh
Registration Number: 685/5
Registration district: Newington
Civil Parish: Edinburgh St Cuthberts
County: Midlothian
Address: 6 Middleby St
Occupation: Accountant
ED: 69
Household schedule number: 27
Line: 1
Roll: CSSCT1861_129
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Bain 64
Catherine Clark 23
Jessie Legg 29
Alice S Muir 2 Mo
Anna Muir 35
Arthur S Muir 2
James Muir 31
Margaret E Muir 1


Rose

Thank you for looking.

Maybe they did marry in Scotland - thats a long way from where she was born in Falmouth, isn't it?

Rose - do you have William in 1871 census? As I don't, was he in Scotland?

Sue

This looks to be Henrietta.

Births Jun 1865
Cornish Henrietta Dale Falmouth 5c 215

Don't see her in 1881 or 1891.

Rose