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Marriage Look up and Death Look Up

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Maggie

Maggie Report 17 Mar 2008 21:21

Wonder if anyone can help. Trying to trace the marriage of Rose Goldstraw and Michael CARNEY around 1898 -1900 in Bimingham. Had no joy. Can Anyone help. Also looking for Michael's death in c 1951 again in Birmingham.

Thanks for your help.

June

June Report 17 Mar 2008 21:36

1901

Name: Michael Carney
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Rose
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland

Civil Parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St David
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 35
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 73
Household Members: Name Age
Maud Carney 15
Michael Carney 37
Michael Carney 9 months
Phoebe Carney 5
Rose Carney 37



is this your family



June x

Maggie

Maggie Report 17 Mar 2008 21:44

YES. This is them but cannot trace any marriage between Rose and Michael. Rose only lost her first husband in Jan 1898 so she married again quicky I think but can't prove it as I can't find the marriage certificate.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Mar 2008 21:44

She may not have re-married.............

Nicki

Nicki Report 17 Mar 2008 21:46

Is Goldstraw her maiden or married name?

Nicki

Maggie

Maggie Report 17 Mar 2008 21:47

True, but it states on her death certificate some 30 years later wife of....... I know you can't always rely on them but I'm desperate to prove that they did in fact marry. Incidentially she changed all the surnames of her children (all 12 of them once she remarried (?) if she did !!!! to CARNEY

Maggie

Maggie Report 17 Mar 2008 21:48

GOLDSTRAW was her married name. He popped his cloggs in Jan 1898. MORRAN was her original maiden name.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Mar 2008 21:51

Whose child was Maud?

And what happened to Percy and Rose jnr?

Reg

Nicki

Nicki Report 17 Mar 2008 21:51

First marriage for reference -

Marriages Dec 1879

GOLDSTRAW Uriah Wolverhampton 6b 785

Morran Rose Marian Wolverhampton 6b 785

Maggie

Maggie Report 17 Mar 2008 21:54

Percy was killed in WW1. Maud went on to marry. She was originally GOLDSTRAW as was all the children before she married Michael. Not sure what happened to Rose. My Gt Grandmother was Phoebe.

Maggie

Maggie Report 17 Mar 2008 21:55

Yep. Got the first marriage certificate in front of me - just can't find the elusive 2nd !

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Mar 2008 22:07

Judging by this, Maud and Rose are one and the same!

Marie Josephine Beckett 1903 Oct-Nov-Dec Birmingham (1837-1924) Warwickshire
Rose Maud Goldstraw 1903 Oct-Nov-Dec Birmingham (1837-1924) Warwickshire
George Allan Livett 1903 Oct-Nov-Dec Birmingham (1837-1924) Warwickshire
George Stephens 1903 Oct-Nov-Dec Birmingham (1837-1924) Warwickshire

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Mar 2008 22:14

Have checked the Full indexes for 1898-1900 inc and theres no matching marraiges for Rose Goldstraw and Michael Carney

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Mar 2008 22:19

here she is on the 1891

Name: Rose Goldstraw
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Uriah
Gender: Female
Where born: Whampton, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Kings Norton
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints Kings Heath
Town: Kings Heath
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Kings Norton
Sub-registration district: Kings Norton
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Goldstraw 11
Lavinia Goldstraw 10
Percy Goldstraw 1
Rose Goldstraw 28
Rose Goldstraw 6
Uriah Goldstraw 39


Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 2350; Folio 78; Page 29; GSU roll: 6097460.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Mar 2008 22:23

and young Michaels birth, still Kings Norton

Name: Michael Carney
Year of Registration: 1900
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Kings Norton (To 1912)
County: Staffordshire, Warwickshire, Worcestershire
Volume: 6c
Page: 380 (click to see others on

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Mar 2008 22:36

Michael senior death

June Qtr 1952

Michael Carney age 85 Birmingham 9c 175


seems whoever reg the death had his age a bit out

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 18 Mar 2008 08:01

nudged up for death ref found

Maggie

Maggie Report 18 Mar 2008 16:18

Shirley,

Thanks. Will order the certificate. Fingers crossed.

Maggie

Maggie Report 29 Mar 2008 21:33

Alias - The Michael Carney in 1952 was the wrong one. Back to the drawing board. My Mum tells me she thinks it might be earlier 1945-47 ish. Any joy anyone?

Thistledown

Thistledown Report 29 Mar 2008 23:20


Hi Maggie,
Just wondering would they have gotten married in Ireland as he was from there.
Just a thought.
Betty.