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Hi
I am new to this so please bear with me. I have been led into family research by my uncle, who is in his 80's, and is anxious to trace his family back at least one step further. His name is Peter Chamberlain, and the last concrete record I have is for a James Chamberlain in the 1901 census, where he is a dock worker in Southampton aged 31. The record shows he was born in Ipswich as James but my uncle had always thought his first name was Peter. He tells me James' father was called Robert. (I contacted a Genes Reunited member who kindly allowed me to access their tre, but that led to another blank, unfortunately.
There appears to be another James Chamberlain of the same age living in Southampton after 1871, but it can't be him as he was of different parentage and place of birth.
I have hit the proverbial brick wall and don't know how to get any further with this. Can anyone please help?

Hi,

Can you be more specific on whom you are seeking with approx dob and place .

Ron

Could this be his birth?

Name: Peter James Chamberlain
Year of Registration: 1869
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Ipswich
County: Suffolk
Volume: 4a
Page: 575

IF that is him, this MAY be him in 1891. A private in 11th Hussars.

Name: Peter Chamberlain
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Gender: Male
Where born: Ipswich, Suffolk, England

Civil Parish: St Mary Northgate
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Canterbury
Sub-registration district: Canterbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 32

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 708; Folio 105; Page 8

Again IF the correct birth here is the 1881.

Name: Peter Chamberlain
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Frances
Gender: Male
Where born: Ipswich, Suffolk, England

Civil Parish: Ipswich St Mary Stoke
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street address: 3 Railway Buildings Wherstead Rd
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: School

Registration district: Ipswich
Sub-registration district: St Matthew
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Frances Chamberlain 42
Herbert Chamberlain 3
Peter Chamberlain 11

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 1872; Folio: 14; Page: 22

Just for reference is this the right James Chamberlain:
James Chamberlain Dock Labourer
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Lucy
Gender: Male
Where born: Ipswich, Suffolk, England

Civil Parish: Sholing
Ecclesiastical parish: Sholing St Mary
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: South Stoneham
Sub-registration district: St Mary Extra
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 305
Household Members: Name Age
Archibald Chamberlain 3
Cecil Chamberlain 6
James Chamberlain 31
Kenneth Chamberlain 4
Lucy Chamberlain 31
Percival Chamberlain 7

marriage
Peter James Chamberlain 1891 Apr-May-Jun Winchester Hampshire

Lucy Macey

I can only find the one Chamberlain born Ipswich. It would seem that James and Peter may be the same man.

Yes, that's our man, Rutland Belle!
Just going to try to work that one through, Jim...
thanks so far! :-)

Jim, that's very helpful re marriage AND clearing up the name - and vindicating my Uncle!
The fact that registry 1901 is South Stoneham district parralels this 'other' James Chamberlain (who is a gardener there in 1891) but his dad was also called James, a coachman born in Hampshire! Also baby James was listed as being born in South Stoneham (Hants), and not Ipswich. Which is were I was probably getting my knickers in a twist!

Hi Keith, that's very intersting that your records show only a mother in the household at that time, as I had found a record for a Robert Chamberlain in Ipswich, who was incarcerated as a lunatic aged 24, occupation 'waterman.' (1871 census).Would have been about the right age. It would be extremely sobering to find out my namesake was a bit unstable (explains a lot, really)!

Well, I have visited the census' for 1841-61, which shows a Robert Chamberlain resident in Ipswich, but no record of a marriage or mention at all after 1861. There is the aforementioned inmate who was about 24 in 1871 (if he were father to this Robert who was 3 in 1841, that would have made him about 15).
I'd appreciate if anyone could make this crucial link somehow...

1881
Frances Chamberlain abt 1839 Holbrook, Suffolk, England Head Ipswich St Mary Stoke, Suffolk
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1871 England Census
about Farrie Chamblin
Name: Farrie Chamblin
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Holbrook, Suffolk, England
Civil Parish: Ipswich St Mary Stoke
Ecclesiastical parish: Norwich
Town: Ipswich
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Ipswich
Sub-registration district: St Matthew
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Household schedule number: 140
Household Members: Name Age
Clara Chamblin 4
Emily Chamblin 6
Farrie Chamblin 31
Jane Chamblin 12
Peter Chamblin 1

That's fascinating, Jim, and obviously the mis-spelling didn't help. This seems to tie up some things, but I wonder where Robert (who I presume from a family source was his name) ended up? Does the lack of info in the 'Condition as to marriage' entry mean she was single or not - I suspect in those days if there was any skulduggery a tactful silence may have been necessary?

Robert, the condition of marriage entry is not transcribed, to see that you have to view the image.

Robert
Looking at the image Frances/Farrie says that she is married.

Farrie in 1871 is married,laundress
Cannot tie her to a previous census with any certainty.
1851
Frances Page abt 1838 Holbrook, Suffolk, England Daughter-in-law(step) Holbrook, Suffolk

Thanks Keith.

Marriages A/M/J qtr 1868 Ipswich
Francis( Francis also on image) Page
Robert Chamberlain
Both page and folio number are the same.
4a 844
They don't show up together on Ancestry because Robert's entry has been wrongly transcribed as 4a 811

Absolutely fantastic - looks like you guys have nailed it! What image(s) show these facts, so I can hopefully download them.
Can't tell you how pleased I am - will phone my uncle later with the news.
And thanks for all your patience :-)

ROBERT CHAMBERLAIN

Wife
FRANCES ELIZABETH
Children

1. PETER JAMES CHAMBERLAIN Pedigree
Male

Birth:
Christening: 24 SEP 1869 Saint Mary Stoke, Ipswich, Suffolk, England
Death:
Burial:

Keith, I phoned my uncle tonight and he did mention that Peter James was in the Hussars (before I told him)! Wish he gave me more info to go on before, but still - we got there in the end. Even got back to c1803 with another James (father of Robert).

James,Mary Ann and Emily all born Wickham Market.

1851 England Census
about Robert Chamberlin
Name: Robert Chamberlin
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: St Clement, Suffolk, England

Civil Parish: Ipswich St Mary Stoke
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Ipswich
Sub-registration district: St Matthedw
ED, institution, or vessel: 1c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 32
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Chamberlin 10
Eliza Chamberlin 7
Emily Chamberlin 17
James Chamberlin 48
Mary Ann Chamberlin 45
Robert Chamberlin 13
William Chamberlin 1


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