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Trying to find any birth info on Frederick Lawrenc

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Jeremy

Jeremy Report 12 May 2008 18:05

Hi I am trying to find birth info for my grandad. the surname he was born with was Lawrence Long, but he dropped the long when he was married to Edith Smith.
With kind regards
Jeremy Lawrence

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 12 May 2008 18:08

When and where ???

Jeremy

Jeremy Report 12 May 2008 20:08

Hi Lindsey, sorry about the lack of info (newbie). He was born in 1862 in Kent. Edith Annie Smith was born in 1896 in Nottingham. I cant find any marriage info, but i managed to find his death certificate just cannot find any birth info. On his death cert it says Name and surname: Lawrence Long otherwise Frederick Lawrence.

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 12 May 2008 20:20

He is 34 years older ?

Jeremy

Jeremy Report 12 May 2008 20:24

Afraid so, could`nt believe it myself. Family storie are vauge to say the least. So i`m really having a hard time finding info. I think he was a bit of a rouge.

Sam

Sam Report 12 May 2008 20:25

Is this him in 1901? If so, it says he was born in Bicester, Oxon.

Name: Frederic Lawrence Long
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Cadet
Gender: Male
Where born: Bicester, Oxfordshire, England
District Thames Nautical Training Ship for Officers H M S Worcester

Civil Parish: Swanscombe
Ecclesiastical parish: Greenhithe St Mary the Virgin
Town: Swanscombe
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

EDIT: Just realised that the age is out. How do you know when and where he was born?
Have you found him on any census?

Sam x

doddsy1

doddsy1 Report 12 May 2008 20:28

Just in case family tales are a bit tall...
Edith A Smith married Frederick W Long in 1924, Bury, 8c page 1236

Jeremy

Jeremy Report 12 May 2008 20:29

Hi Sam,`I`ve never seen this before. This is a possibility. There is big difference with DOB but mine could be wrong. Haent found him on anything just death cert by using the date from my fathers army book when he got special leave in 1943.

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 12 May 2008 20:32

View Record

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Name: Frederick W Lawrence
Year of Registration: 1924
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's Surname: Smith
District: Bury
County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire
Volume: 8c

Take a look at the picture to see even more.

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Frederick W Lawrence 1924 Apr-May-Jun Smith Bury Greater Manchester, Lancashire
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Edith A Smith 1924 Apr-May-Jun Lawrence Bury
Thats all I can find too, there something not right here ?

Sam

Sam Report 12 May 2008 20:32

So when/where did he die and how old was he?

Jeremy

Jeremy Report 12 May 2008 20:33

Hi seaham, thanks for that. Is there anyway i can crossref this to find DOB for him. He died 29 july 1943 st Lukes hospital borough of chelsea aged 80.

doddsy1

doddsy1 Report 12 May 2008 20:34

Hi Jeremy
You said that you have the death certificate then would you mind telling us when he died and how old he was when he died

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 12 May 2008 20:35

I bet hes related to one of my Oxford Longs after all that !

doddsy1

doddsy1 Report 12 May 2008 20:36

Sorry, I should have read your thread properly. You say that your father got special leave in 1943, can I assume that was for the funeral ?

Jeremy

Jeremy Report 12 May 2008 20:36

Never know Lindsey, I can live in hope.

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 12 May 2008 20:38

You searched for Frederich L Long born in Oxfordshire in 1886
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England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Frederic Lawrence Long
Name: Frederic Lawrence Long
Year of Registration: 1885
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Bicester
County: Buckinghamshire, Oxfordshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 821 (click to see others on page)

Yahoo

Jeremy

Jeremy Report 12 May 2008 20:41

That right Seaham it was compassionate leave and for one month. That was a long leave in wartime.

Jeremy

Jeremy Report 12 May 2008 20:42

So does this mean this is him Lindsey?

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 12 May 2008 20:44

I would bet my bottom dollar it is! I f you can afford the £7 for the certificate it will tell you his parents

Jeremy

Jeremy Report 12 May 2008 20:46

Sorry Seaham, he died in Hammersmith.