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Thanks Christine,
I really do appreciate the help you have all given me and the time you have taken.
Sharon

Hi Sharon,

Cloth finisher and cloth dresser will be the same thing.

If you need anything else, I'll be pleased to help if I can.

Christine

Just checked this morning as have a day off to concentrate on this all important line (wanted as a 70th birthday present for someone who knows nothing about their ancestry).
Many, many thanks to you all for your help in confirming that I was right.
In answer to an early question on the thread the occupation of James at the time of his marriage was a cloth finisher. His father was also called James which fits with the birth cert I have. James Senr is listed as being a cloth finisher on his son's marriage cert and a cloth dresser on his son's birth cert. Possibly this is one and the same thing but I will check in a book of occupations tomorrow.
I will print off all your replies to read thoroughly as I did get lost with the remarriage bit.....
Many thanks to you all again
Sharon

I meant to add these last night but forgot.
There are 2 William Barber deaths between 1851/61 in Dewsbury.


Deaths Sep 1855 (>99%)
Barber William Dewsbury 9b 277

Deaths Dec 1857 (>99%)
Barber William Dewsbury 9b 298


Perhaps one of them was their son

Births Jun 1853 (98%)
Barber William Dewsbury 9b 423


Christine

Not to worry about duplicate posts as it just shows we have come to the same conclusion.

Hopefully Sharon will check back shortly and then she can contact other members with the new information. Especially as she has the all important certificate.

Maureen

Yes Maureen should have put that about relying on other peoples information.

Hope Ancestry take note of the correction.

Some of the posts are duplicated but won't delete.

Christine

Have added another name correction to the 1901 census on Ancestry.

Mentioned that mother Ann was a Barber but remarried to Waite and told them to view 1861 census for joined family.

No idea if it will get corrected but if okay will take several weeks before it does show on site

Christine,

Yes it is very important to get the certs.

And also not to trust the information given by other people until you check it yourself.

Brilliant teamwork on this one.

Maureen

It just goes to show the importance of getting the certificates.

Christine

Marriages Mar 1861 (>99%)

<<Barber Ann Bradford Yk 9b 94
Tommis Mary Bradford Yk. 9b 94
<<Waite Samuel Bradford Yk 9b 94
Wilkinson Joseph Bradford Yk 9b 94

Christine

At the moment it looks as if whoever altered the name of Mary A Pickles on the 1901 census to Waite was incorrect. Obviously based the name correction on the name of the mother being Waite.

Naughty obviously did not check their facts correctly and unfortunately they can not be contacted to tell them of their error.

marriageName: Samuel Waite /Ann Barber
Year of Registration: 1861
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Bradford
County: Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire
Volume: 9b
Page: 94

1851
Name: Isaac Waite
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Samuel
Mother's Name: Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Guiseley, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Guiseley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Otley
Sub registration district: Yeadon
ED, institution, or vessel: 2b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 168
Household Members: Name Age
Abraham Waite 12
Ann Waite 8
Hannah Waite 32
Isaac Waite 5
Mark Waite 15
Samuel Waite 35

1871 census
Alma Terr., Batley, Yorkshire
Samuel Pickles, head, 44, cloth dresser,born Morley, Yorks
Mary A., wife, 58, born Hull, Yorks
*James, son, 19, cloth dresser, born Hull
William, son, 12, scholar, born Batley
Elizabeth, dau, 8, scholar, born Batley
Betty, dau, 7, scholar, born Batley

Barber family in 1851, so it looks as if William died and Ann remarried

1851 England Census
about Rebecca Barber
Name: Rebecca Barber
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Batley, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Batley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Dewsbury
Sub registration district: Morley
ED, institution, or vessel: 1m
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 59
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Barber 23
Rebecca Barber 1
William Barber 25


Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2322; Folio: 426; Page: 14;

Christine

1851
Name: Ann Barber
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: Batley, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Batley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Dewsbury
Sub registration district: Morley
ED, institution, or vessel: 1m
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 59
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Barber 23
Rebecca Barber 1
William Barber 25

1861 England Census
about Mary A Barber
Name: Mary A Barber
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Samuel
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Batley, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Batley
Ecclesiastical parish: Batley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Dewsbury
Sub registration district: Batley
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 30
Household Members: Name Age
Louisa Barber 10
Mary A Barber 7
Rebecca Barber 11
Ann Waite 33
Ann Waite 17
Isaac Waite 15
Mary A Waite 9
Samuel Waite 45


Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 3401; Folio: 61; Page: 7

Christine

1881 census
Back Cresent St., Batley, Yorkshire
James Pickles, head, 29, woollen cloth finisher, born Hull
Mary A., wife, 27, born Heckmondwike
Samuel, son, 5
Florence A., dau, 2
Emily, dau, 7 months
Children born Batley.

1861 worth looking at

Name: Mary A Barber
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Samuel
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Batley, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Batley
Ecclesiastical parish: Batley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Dewsbury
Sub registration district: Batley
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 30
Household Members: Name Age
Louisa Barber 10
Mary A Barber 7
Rebecca Barber 11
Ann Waite 33
Ann Waite 17
Isaac Waite 15
Mary A Waite 9
Samuel Waite 45

This looks like the marriage of James and Mary Ann

Marriages Sep 1874 (>99%)

<<Barber Mary Ann Dewsbury 9b 844
BROOKE George Dewsbury 9b 844
<<Pickles James Dewsbury 9b 844
Ward Elisabeth Dewsbury 9b 844

Christine