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WAR RECORDS- PLEASE HELP ME.-Trying to find info on Albert Edward Neale born abt 1892 not sure where - stories say Ledbury Hfds - have also been told no fathers name on birth cert - cert was thrown out because of this !!!! Dont they know we want this info !!!!!!
Albert moved to Dolgelley Merioneth and died there age 35 in 1927, think he lived there from a small boy ????
Dont know Mothers name, any help would be lovely. Thanks Sally

Have you looked for birth reg'n? It will be on freebmd................

Hi,

Just a tip, Dollgelley is now Dolgellau.

Dee

Thanks Reggie and Denise
I have sent for 3 birth certs all have fathers names on, i will have to send for some more i think. !!!!
Thanks for spelling !!!! all these names change dont they. !!! Sallyx

Hi Sally,

Is there a possibility that Alberts mother married and he took his step fathers name??

Also, did Albert marry?

I went to school in Dollgellau, It's a small town, are there any rellies there that could help??

Dee

Hi Denise
Albert did marry, will get info from my friend - Albert was a Baker he had a shop not sure if it was in Bridge Street, thats where he lived.
Thanks Sally

Me again Denise !!!!
I have found the Neale file at last, its my friends Grandfather the Albert Neale.
He married an Eliza Annie Lodge in Llandudno in 1920 - no fathers name on the cert for Albert. They were both living in Llandudno when they were married, so maybe moved to Dollgellau after.??
Nobody seems to know if Alberts Mother was married- odd ??????
Thanks Sally

Hi Sally,

Found a birth for Eliza;

Births Dec 1892

Lodge Eliza Annie District. Conway Vol.11b Pg.448

Your friend probably has this , can only fnd this one and she's born in Wales, so looks promising.

Albert is another story, very elusive. I'll keep looking.

Dee

Hi, again,

presumably your friends father is;

Births Sep 1926

Neale Edward C Lodge Dolgelly 11b 562

I've added this just in case someone else can add further info.

Dee

THANKS Friends father is Thomas Albert born 1925 in Dolgelley. Maybe Edward is a Bro???? Sally

I was just reading my last message - i didnt put it was Thomas Albert NEALE my friends father.
I will keep looking !!!! Thanks for any help. Sally

NUDGE !!!!!!!

Belated Merry Christmas to you all. !!!!

Even after some very helpful info i still can't seem to find Albert - or his Mother for that matter, it says his Grandmother was next of kin, maybe Mother dead?? I am trying to work out the year of birth on his Protection certificate and Certificate of Identity - looks like 1898 - but first page says he was born in 1892 - i have one more birth cert but still not the correct one. Where do i go from here? the Mulled wine is nearly gone!!!
Also where does it say he joined? Thanks Sally

Nudge

Please help me !!!! I have been looking at the War Records and i cant read the year of birth on the Protection Cert and Cert of Identity Records. I have sent off for 4 birth certs and they are all incorrect.
Many thanks
Sally

Happy New Year

Hi Sally,

Me again!!!

If his Grandmother lived in Birmingham, there's a good chance he could have been born there, what about this one???

Name: Albert Edward Neale
Year of Registration: 1892
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Foleshill
County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 475 (click to see others on page)


We know he must have been born around June 1892 from his army papers.

Dee xxx

Hello Dee,
Well thanks for looking but i have that one - when Albert married he didnt have a Fathers name on the cert and even though i haven't spoken to my friends Father recently she tells me her Dad threw out his Fathers Birth Cert because he didnt have a Fathers name on it - i won't say what i said when i found that out !!!!!! but i bet you can guess. !!!
Sally

Hi Sally,

Think you're just going to have to sit tight for a wee while until the 1911 census is out, not long to wait, thank goodness!!!!!

I think I could guess what your response was, do it go something like;

B!??!C*S!!!!!!!!!

With his Grandmother Sarah down as his next of kin, it could mean sooooo many things, Mum died, Mum remarried or just Mum married. He could have even been born under a different surname and changed it to the same as his Grandmother.

Sometimes it's so frustrating but lets hope the 1911 census will clear things up.

All the best, Dee xxxx

Sally,

Just a quick thought, have you traced the witnesses on Alberts marriage cert???

Dee xxx

Hi Denise
I hope you get this message - i am sorry i havent been looking on GR for a bit then today i put it on and saw you had sent more info - THANKS. Am waiting for the Welsh part of 1911 Census - am sure i will find Albert then !!!!!
Mind i really need to get the 1921 Census to locate my half Auntie !!! but thats a while off.
Hope you are well.
Thanks again
Sallyx

Sally,

I've found him!!!!!


1901 England Census
about Albert Neal
Name: Albert Neal
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: London, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Lapworth <<<<<<<<<<< Army Records Address
Ecclesiastical parish: Lapworth St Mary <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Solihull
Sub registration district: Tanworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 124
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah Neal 60 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Grandmother
Albert Neal 8
Arthur Woodward 21


Going to PM you in case you don't see your thread.


Dee xx

His birth???

Births Jun 1892 (>99%)
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Neal Albert Edward Lambeth 1d 435


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Births Dec 1892 (>99%)
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Neal Albert Edward Marylebone 1a 598



I would say the June one ties in best.

23 years and 4 months of age on 26th October 1915.

Would make his DOB ??/06/1892


Dee x