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can you help me find my great grandad,he was born todmorden 1883.i found him in 1901 census living in wakefield has a border,but i cant find him be4 could any body help please.vicky

Do you have his marriage cert for his father's name and occupation?

Can't find him in 1891

Here's his birth reg


Births Sep 1883

FOSBROOK Fred Todmorden 9a 219

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birth
Name: Fred Fosbrook
Year of Registration: 1883
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Todmorden
County: Lancashire, Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire
Volume: 9a
Page: 219 (click to see others on


cant see him on the 1891 theres only one on there but place of birth differs.

1891 check this one out

Name: Freddie Newell
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Todmorden

Civil Parish: Todmorden and Walsden
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Todmorden
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Todmorden
Sub registration district: Todmorden
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Newell 49
Freddie Newell 7 - Fosbrook
James Newell 35
John Henry Newell 18 - Fosbrook
Margaret Ann Newell 11 - Fosbrook
Willie Newell 14 - Fosbrook
Reuben Walker 29
William Wormald 27

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3547; Folio 94; Page 19; GSU roll: 6098657.



1881
Name: Elizabeth Fosbrook
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: MacClesfield, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Langfield
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: 53 Hanging Ditch
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Servant (Dom)

Registration district: Todmorden
Sub registration district: Todmorden
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
E.Ann Fosbrook 14
E.Ellen Fosbrook 19
Elizabeth Fosbrook 42
Harriet Fosbrook 12
John Fosbrook 43
John Fosbrook 8
M.Ann Fosbrook
William Fosbrook 5



Deaths Jun 1885 (>99%)
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Fosbrook John 44 Todmorden 9a 167




1901
Name: Elizabeth Newell
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: MacClesfield, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Todmorden
Ecclesiastical parish: Todmorden Christchurch and St Mary
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Todmorden
Sub registration district: Todmorden
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 109
Household Members: Name Age
John Betts 26
Pat Cunniff 21
Anthony Cunniffe 18
William Fosbrook 26 son, Manchester
Elizabeth Newell 60
Anthony Waldron 19
Thomas Waldron 20




1901
Name: James Newall
Age: 51
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Brother
Gender: Male
Where born: Walsden, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Todmorden
Ecclesiastical parish: Walsden St Peter
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Todmorden
Sub registration district: Todmorden
ED, institution, or vessel: 40
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 72
Household Members: Name Age
Mary A Blackburn 43
James Newall 51
John Newall 53

thankyou for that,but he was married to margaret ann mullins,i dont think he died in tod either,puls when he 22 in was in wakefield,but i dont no when he came back

they were married 1919.

He's Freddie Fosbrook on the original of the 1891 census:
13 Peel St., Todmorden, Yorkshire
James Newell, head, 35, carter, born Todmorden
Elizabeth, wife, 49, born Macclesfield
John Henry Fosbrook, son, 18, labourer, born Manchester
Willie Fosbrook, son, 16, apprentice, born Manchester
Margaret Ann Fosbrook, dau, 11, scholar, born Todmorden
*Freddie Fosbrook, son, 7, scholar, born Todmorden
Reuben Walker, lodger, 29, labourer, born Coventry
William Wormald?, lodger, 27, firebeater?, born ???

Do you have his birth or marriage cert ?

Would be useful to know the names of his parents and the occupation of his father

Trying to confirm if the 1891 and 1881 census I posted is correct.

Maureen,

I hope Victoria comes back. It looks pretty likely that the information you have found is correct, and that Elizabeth was married 1st to John Fosbrook, and by 1891 had either married or was "co-habiting" with James Newell.

Sue

this all seems strange because he was born fred,no i havent got marriage certifcate,i dont no his birth date,i'll all new to this!

Hi Victoria,

Which bit of the information is strange? Is it because he is called Freddie.

Did Fred marry Hannah Pownall in 1919? If correct names then it would be worth getting the certificate.

Marriages Sep 1919 (>99%)
Fosbrook Fred Pownall Todmorden 9a 619


The members are trying to get you the right information but if you have any doubts then please add them to the thread.

Maureen

ive been looking at 15 years of fosbrook weddings counldnt find him,so i looked up margaret ann mullins and found her in 1907 married in todmorden,so then looked up fosbrook again and he was called william.ive told my mum this and said every one called him fred.this gets better by the day.so i wonder where do i go from here now.

Just for info

Marriages Jun 1907 (>99%)
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FOSBROOK William Todmorden 9a 493
HEATON Joe Harry Todmorden 9a 493
MULLINS Margaret Ann Todmorden 9a 493
RHODES Ellen Ann Todmorden 9a 493



Victoria have you got any certs at all with the name of Margaret Mullins on?

none whats so ever,only that ive found all the children with her name has mum inculding my grandma,but she sadly past away in april so i didnt really ask her.but i did find children my mum new nothing about,(antie's and uncles) so a name change seems all the much better.ha

Victoria,

Why oh why did you not give this information from the start.

Always when asking for help give all the information that you know.

Maureen

Fosbrook children, with mothers maiden name Mullins - do you have these?

Births Sep 1911
FOSBROOK Francis Mullins Wakefield 9c 157

Births Sep 1913
Fosbrook Margaret A Mullins Wakefield 9c 173

Births Mar 1916
Fosbrook Willie Mullins Wakefield 9c 151

Births Dec 1921
Fosbrook Eileen Mullins Todmorden 9a 329

Births Dec 1923 Fosbrook Jane Mullins Todmorden 9a 325

Births Jun 1925
Fosbrook John Mullins Todmorden 9a 342

i didnt no he change is name till now im sorry.forgive me yes i have these children's names.

there is also a ann or annie born 1908

jane is my grandma

no sorry again its lucy born 1908,or thats what i found.