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28 Jun 2008 23:55 |
has anyone access to 1901 or eirlier census they can help me with.im still looking for robert warren d.o.b.1877,this is worked out from his marriage cert which was 1912 and he was 35 at the time. married in norwich to elizabeth noman.his fathers name was samuel, whom i think came from thorpe in norfolk.no idea of mothers name or if he had any siblings.his address at the time of his marriage was 2 tuns yard, saint miles.i have looked through hundreds of records and its like he didnt exist.i know about his wifes family and their children. hoping someone can help, regards pam
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JenW
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29 Jun 2008 00:04 |
could this be him? 1881 England Census about Robert Warren Name: Robert Warren Age: 6 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875 Relation: Son Father's Name: Samuel Mother's Name: Rebecca Gender: Male Where born: Stroxton, Lincoln, England Civil Parish: Irnham County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Bourn Sub registration district: Corby ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Alice Warren Mary E. Warren 7 Nellie Warren 2 Rebecca Warren 29 Robert Warren 6 Samuel Warren 33 Walter Warren 5
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29 Jun 2008 00:05 |
here's that one in 1891 - no samuel
1891 England Census about Robert Warren Name: Robert Warren Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875 Relation: Son Mother's Name: Rebecca Gender: Male Where born: Stroxton, Lincolnshire, England Civil Parish: Corby Ecclesiastical parish: Corby Town: Corby County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Bourn Sub registration district: Corby ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Alice Warren 10 Edith Warren 3 Edward Warren 8 Nelly Warren 12 Rebecca Warren 39 Robert Warren 16 Sam Warren 6 Walter Warren 15 View Original Record
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JenW
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29 Jun 2008 00:08 |
what did his marriage cert say his/his father's occupation was? in 1901 robert is an ordinary agricultural labourer and in 1881 samuel was an agricultural labourer
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bighen
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29 Jun 2008 00:13 |
i dont think its lincoln ones as im pretty sure he came from norwich,samuel was a gardener ,robert a shoe finisher.robert is my dads dad,he said he didnt know much about him and didnt know the names of his grandparents, only that his nan lived to be 96.appart from that not much more. pam
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JenW
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29 Jun 2008 00:21 |
sorry, cant help you. thats the only one i can find with father samuel born anywhere in england
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bighen
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29 Jun 2008 00:26 |
thanks for your help.might get there one day. just so annoying when you have his marriage cert sitting there and cant find anything else .
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29 Jun 2008 00:31 |
there's this birth? possibly the birth cert would show what you need?
Births Mar 1875 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WARREN Robert Benjamin Norwich 4b 140
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bighen
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29 Jun 2008 00:32 |
leave it with me and il double check if my dad knows if samuel could have come from anywhere else appart from norfolk.my dads 88 and doesnt know too much.im grateful for everyones help
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bighen
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29 Jun 2008 00:36 |
i know what you mean jenna but because of the marriage cert 1875 would make it 2 years out. the cert wouldnt be wrong or would it
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29 Jun 2008 00:47 |
it could be. it has been known
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29 Jun 2008 00:54 |
Found him in 1901. He is transcribed as WARRENT
Samuel Warrent 1843 Norwich occ gardener Ann wife 1841 Norwich Samuel 1872 Norwich occ shoemaker ROBERT WARRENT 1877 Norwich occ shoe finisher Rose dau 1885 Norwich James transcribed as grandson age 27 months Norwich. However on the image James is 27 years NOT a grandson and is a shoemaker
address says Row 9-21 Norwich . Just shows the importance of checking images before you accept what is transcribed
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Jeanette
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29 Jun 2008 01:12 |
Well Done Margaret
This looks like them James is 7
1881 England Census about Samuel Warrant Name: Samuel Warrant Age: 39 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Ann Father's Name: James Gender: Male Where born: Norwich, Norfolk, England Civil Parish: Lakenham County/Island: Norfolk Country: England Street address: Opposite 21 Row Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Gardener Registration district: Norwich Sub registration district: Mancroft ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Ann Warrant 41 Elizabeth Warrant 15 Hannah Warrant James A. Warrant 7 Robert Warrant 4 Samuel Warrant 39 Samuel Warrant 9 William Warrant 12 James Wright 74 JamesWright is listed as father,widower, possibly Ann's dad
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29 Jun 2008 01:17 |
here you go. 1891
1891 England Census about Robert Warrent Name: Robert Warrent Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877 Relation: Son Father's Name: Samuel Mother's Name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Norwich, Norfolk, England Civil Parish: Lakenham Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark County/Island: Norfolk Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Norwich Sub registration district: Mancroft ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Ann Warrent 49 Hannah Warrent 10 James Warrent 17 Robert Warrent 14 Rose Warrent 6 Samuel Warrent 47 Samuel Warrent 19
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29 Jun 2008 01:20 |
The surname would appear to be warrant, not warren. its not mistranscribed. here's the marriage
Marriages Dec 1861 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WARRANT Samuel Norwich 4b 290 WRIGHT Ann Norwich 4b 290
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29 Jun 2008 01:22 |
this would appear to be ann on the 1851 census with her parents
1851 England Census about Ann Wright Name: Ann Wright Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: James Mother's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Female Where born: Norwich St Johns Sepulek, Norfolk, England Civil Parish: Norwich St Michael At Thorn County/Island: Norfolk Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Norwich Sub registration district: Conisford ED, institution, or vessel: 5c Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 157 Household Members: Name Age Ann Wright 9 Elizabeth Wright 38 James Wright 44
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29 Jun 2008 01:33 |
ann's birth
ANN WRIGHT Pedigree Female
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: 03 JUL 1840 Christening: 26 JUL 1840 Saint John De Sepulchre, Norwich, Norfolk, England Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: JAMES WRIGHT Family Mother: ELIZABETH
some siblings??
MARY ANN WRIGHT Pedigree Female
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: 11 JAN 1835 Christening: 18 JAN 1835 Saint John De Sepulchre, Norwich, Norfolk, England Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: JAMES WRIGHT Family Mother: ELIZTH
MARTHA ANN WRIGHT Pedigree Female
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: 23 AUG 1840 Christening: 06 SEP 1840 Saint John De Sepulchre, Norwich, Norfolk, England Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: JAMES WRIGHT Family Mother: ELIZABETH
JAMES WRIGHT Pedigree Male
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: 25 AUG 1832 Christening: 02 SEP 1832 Saint John De Sepulchre, Norwich, Norfolk, England Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: JAMES WRIGHT Family Mother: ELIZABETH
WILLIAM WRIGHT Pedigree Male
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: 11 JUN 1843 Christening: 03 JUL 1843 Saint John De Sepulchre, Norwich, Norfolk, England Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: JAMES WRIGHT Family Mother: ELIZABETH
ADELAIDE WRIGHT Pedigree Female
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: 09 SEP 1831 Christening: 11 SEP 1831 Saint John De Sepulchre, Norwich, Norfolk, England Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: JAMES WRIGHT Family Mother: ELIZABETH
i'm not sure about the siblings...there appears to be more than one family in norfolk with father james and mother elizabeth around the correct age
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29 Jun 2008 01:37 |
Are you sure the name is Warren?
1891. Family still transcribed as WARRENT One other child Hannah born 1881 Norwich
address 40 Row Norwich Lakenham parish
1881 family transcribed as WARRANT. You can look for them There is an Elizabeth born 1866 Norwich There is James Wright father born 1807 Norwich living with them . address opposite 21 Row
1871 census. Samuel Warrant 1843 Norwich occ gardener Ann wife 1841 Norwich occ power loom weaver William son 1869 Norwich address Topers Sq Norwich
1871 census. James Wright 1808 Norwich. occ cobbler Elizabeth wife 1813 Norwich. Elizabeth Warralit( Warrant on image) granddaughter 1867 Norwich address Topers Sq Norwich Both the Wright and Warrant families are in the same house when you check the image
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29 Jun 2008 06:17 |
1861 CENSUS Samuel Warrant 1796 Lyng Norfolk occ gardener Ann wife 1807 Norwich occ washerwoman SAMUEL son 1843 Norwich occ gardener Hannah 1848 Norwich occ shoebinder Robert Warrant nephew 1843 Norwich occ shoemaker
address no 14 21 Row Lakenham Norwich
1851census.transcribed as WARNER Samuel Warner 1799 Lyng occ gardener Ann 1806 Norwich William son 1826 Norwich occ looks like Hemp dresser? SAMUEL 1843 Norwich Hannah 1848 Norwich
address 14 21 Row
Heres William in 1861 1861 census. William Warren 1826 Norwich occ hemp dresser. Eliza wife 1834 Norwich occ shoe binder
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bighen
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29 Jun 2008 12:57 |
this is all confusing.some of it could make sense.samuel was a gardener,robert was a shoe finisher.my dad is roberts son,his name is bertie which was his mums brothers name.he had a brother robert and a sister rose both of which are in the warrent family.i think back then they carried names over to the next generation.but the name warrent is puzzeling me.i was a warren,my dad is a warren.roberts marriage cert he is warren.if it is the same family and the name got changed is there a way to find out how .andrew found warrent when i was first searching but i dissmissed it as my maiden name was warren.your all brilliant for finding this out.how do i move on? pam
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