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hi im trying to find the marriage of a james dignum and mary brown,i dont know where or when they were married,but their daughter harriet was born on 24th october 1884 in liverpool,thankyou

Have you tried the FreeBMD?

Can't see the marriage but is this Harriett with her mum in 1891.

1891 census transcription details for: 94, Salisbury Street, Everton, Liverpool
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12 Piece: 2943 Folio: 41 Page: 21

Reg. District: West Derby Sub District: South Everton
Enum. District: 6 Ecclesiastical District: St Timothy
Parish: Everton City/Municipal Borough: Liverpool
Address: 94, Salisbury Street, Everton, Liverpool
County: Lancashire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation,
Disability Where Born
BROWN, Marion Head Widow F 56 1835 Living On Own Means
Glasgow, Scotland
DIGNUM, Mary Daughter Widow F 31 1860 Charwoman
Newcastle Upon Tyne, Co Durham
DELAMORE, Grace Daughter Married F 24 1867 Charwoman
Middlesborough, Yorkshire
BROWN, John Son Single M 22 1869 General Labourer
Liverpool, Lancashire
BROWN, William Son Single M 19 1872 Mariner
Liverpool, Lancashire
DIGNUM, Marion Granddaughter F 9 1882 Scholar
Liverpool, Lancashire
DIGNUM, Harriett Granddaughter F 6 1885 Scholar
Liverpool, Lancashire
DELAMORE, John G Grandson M 6 1885 Scholar
Liverpool, Lancashire
DELAMORE, James W Grandson M 2 1889
Liverpool, Lancashire

Possible death for James

Deaths Mar 1889 (>99%)
Dignum James 33 W. Derby 8b 278

hi lost for words ,yes thats the correct family,i just cant seem to find anything on james dignum

I see Harriet is the grand daughter on the above 1891

hi jacqueline,yes she is,when i first found that her mum had the surname brown and they had scottish connections i thought this is going to be really hard tracing that side of the family,but i didnt think that james dignum would be harder to trace,although saying that im still stuck trying to trace the keenans,but thats another story

Do you have Harriet's birth cert? If not, Mary could have been married before she married James.

Rose

hi portland rose yes i do have harriets birth cert all the details are on the top thread,the only thing i forgot to add was on birth cert it says james is a labouer,donna

hi all,i have to go and sort kids out for bed,so if you find anymore info for me and i dont reply,please dont think im ignoring you,i will be back as soon as i can,also thankyou all for the help so far,donna

Wouldn't be surprised if James' surname had been mistranscribed / misheard at time of marriage so be a bit "loose" in the searching.

Might be worth trying to track Mary's mother back a few censuses - perhaps she married again? So that Mary may have had a different name?

Nothing obvious on FreeBMD though ...

Jill

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Found this one on freebmd



Marriages Jun 1876 (>99%)

Dignum James Liverpool 8b 366
Donoghue Rose Mary Liverpool 8b 366
Ray Margaret Liverpool 8b 366
Withers Charles Ignatius Liverpool 8b 366



Could Mary have been a Donoghue?????????????




sylvia

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1881 Census

Name: James Dignam
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 33 Holly St
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Carter

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub registration district: Islington
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Dignam 22
Mary Dignam 21 b.ca 1860, Liverpool, Lancashire



sylvia

choices choices!!


Births Mar 1858 (>99%)

Dignam James Wirral 8a 419

OR

Births Dec 1859 (>99%)

DIGNAM James Liverpool 8b 40



sylvia

Hi Sylvia

Sorry the marriage you found James married Margaret Ray :-)

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1876
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
DIGNUM James RAY Margaret Liverpool, Register Office or Registrar Attended Liverpool REG_LP/154/38

Regards
LfW

hi all,the kids are sorted and tucked up in bed.thankyou for replying,
jill in east kent,
i have found the brown family in the 1881 census they are living in 92 christian street liverpool,and on harriets bith cert in 1884 the address is given as 94 christian street
silvia in canada
thanks for finding james and mary in 1881 census didnt see that one,do you think mary and james didnt marry or could they have got married in scotland,? the annoying thing is that i have found the marriages for mary browns sisters and both were married in liverpool,

Donna,

Do you have the family in 1871? I can't seem to find them.

Rose

Forget that. Here they are:

1871 England Census
about John Brown
Name: John Brown
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Civil Parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Condition as to marriage:
Country: England
Registration district: Liverpool
Sub registration district: Dale Street
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 129
Household Members: Name Age
John Brown 36
John Harnson Brown 2
Mary Brown 34 Scotland
Mary Brown 10
Rose Brown 6

Rose

LfW

Thank you!!

maybe Mary and James didn't marry.

Maybe James left Margaret Ray to be with Mary, and they couldn't get married



sylvia



sylvia

hi sylvia,and portland rose,sorry about not replying last nite fell asleep in the chair,i'd had a very busy day yesterday,the brown family in the 1871 census does'nt seem to be the same family as the spouse is down as mary and not marion,i had the same problem finding them in 1871,it does look like you could be right about margaret,if that is the case it looks, like i'll have to put james down as a no go area,and try and find out more about mary parents in scotland,THANKYOU,for all your help,best regards,donna