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Jacquline

Jacquline Report 27 Sep 2008 17:13

can anyone help find thomas adams born 1856 i think his wife was name martha ? they had a son joseph born 1880 who were his parents? any help much appiciated
jackie

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 27 Sep 2008 17:15

place, or country, county?

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 27 Sep 2008 17:17

1881 census
Thomas ADAMS Head M Male 28 Chester, Cheshire, England Joiner At Candle Factory
Mary E. ADAMS Wife M Female 34 Hawarden, Flint, Wales
Arthur ADAMS Son Male 6 Bromborough Pool, Cheshire, England Scholar
Joseph ADAMS Son Male 2 Bromborough Pool, Cheshire, England
Eliza ADAMS Daur Female 2 m Bromborough Pool, Cheshire, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling 47 Manor Place
Census Place Bromborough, Cheshire, England
Family History Library Film 1341854
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3569 / 131
Page Number 46


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Jacquline

Jacquline Report 27 Sep 2008 17:17

staffordshire poss west bromwich rowley regis surrounding area's

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 27 Sep 2008 17:32

1881 census has this one
38 New St., Victoria Rd., Rawmarsh, Yorkshire
Thomas Adams, lodger, 24, coal miner
Martha, wife, 21
Thomas, son, 1
All born Staffs, (looks like West Brom?)

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 27 Sep 2008 17:38

Also next door
37 New st., Victoria Rd., Rawmarsh
Mary Ann Adams, head, married, 27, boen Staffs, Billston
Thomas, son, 12, born Staffs, W. Bromwich
Charles, son, 7, born Staffs, Aldridge
Richard, son, 5
Elizabeth, dau, 3
Margaret, dau, 2
William Perkins, boarder, 22
Hannah Perkins, wife 24
All others born (what looks like West Brom.)

Jacquline

Jacquline Report 27 Sep 2008 17:47

thanks margaret, will check but joseph should be there s he was born 1880

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 27 Sep 2008 17:47

Same family in 1891 but no son Joseph
5 Summer St., West Bromwich, Staffordshire
Thomas Adams, head, 39, coalminer
Martha, wife, 36
Thomas, son, 11
Charles, son, 9
Edward, son, 7
Gertrude, dau, 4
Dennis, son, 2
Parents and Thomas, 11, born West Bromwich, next 3 born Yorkshire, Dennis born West Bromwich.

Jacquline

Jacquline Report 27 Sep 2008 17:54

could thomas be tom joe or joe tom as joes children were gert dennis,thomas poss name after uncles and aunts think this is the one thanks will check

Jacquline

Jacquline Report 27 Sep 2008 18:00

any joy on martha's maiden name and thomas's parents? think father was thomas also and mother hannah merricks thanks

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 27 Sep 2008 18:01

How do you know his parents names?

Have you got Joseph on any census and do you have his marriage cert?

Christine

Jacquline

Jacquline Report 27 Sep 2008 18:15

Hi christine someone else found out but seemed a bit vague. no to the other questions
jackie

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 27 Sep 2008 18:21

Thomas in 1871?
All Saints St., West Bromwich, Staffordshire
George Adams, head, 59, greengrocer, born Wednesbury
Elizabeth, wife, 61, born Salop, Oaken gates
Charles, son, single, 25, miner
*Thomas C., grandson, 14, miner
Elizabeth Mullett, dau, married, 23
Richard J. Mullett, grandson, 6 months
All others born West Bromwich.

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 27 Sep 2008 18:25

There is no Joseph showing up with parents Thomas and Martha.

When did your Joseph marry and what was his wifes name?

Christine

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 27 Sep 2008 18:28

There is this Joseph in 1901 in correct area

1901 England Census
about Joseph Adams
Name: Joseph Adams
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Rowley Regis, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Rowley Regis
Ecclesiastical parish: Rowley Regis St Giles
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Dudley
Sub registration district: Rowley Regis
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 120
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Adams 20
Charles Whitefield 10
Frances Whitefield 45
John Whitefield 14
Joshua Whitefield 8
Polley Whitefield 6
William Whitefield 43

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 2730; Folio: 73; Page: 20


There are 2 in 1891 correct are but neither with father Thomas.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 27 Sep 2008 18:31

1861 census
(Something?) End, West Bromwich, Staffordshire
George Adams, head, 46, coal miner, born Henley
Elizabeth, wife 49, born Salop, Oakengates
George, son, 20, coal miner
Charles, son, 14, coal miner
Elizabeth, dau, 12
???, son, 10
*Thomas, son, 4
All other born West Bromwich.
(Thomas was a grandson in 1871 but he's a son here!)

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 27 Sep 2008 18:38

Can't find a marriage of Thomas and Martha and there are too many Marthas on the 1871 census born West Bromwich to guess which one is her.

Jacquline

Jacquline Report 27 Sep 2008 18:50

christine don't know when they married his wife was name Annie Handley she came from kidderminster there first child was born in 1913
Jackie

Jacquline

Jacquline Report 27 Sep 2008 18:57

Hi margaret as you say tom was grandson on 1871 also george was born in wednesbury

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 27 Sep 2008 19:35

You really need to get this marriage cert to find out his father's name and occupation, because as Joseph Adams is a common name you could be following the wrong line without definite proof.


Marriages Dec 1912 (98%)


Adams Joseph T Handley Kidderminster 6c 444
Handley Annie Adams Kidderminster 6c 444

He appears to be Joseph T on the marriage reg.

Christine