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I KNOW IVE JUST ASKED FOR HELP BUT AM UNABLE TO USE MY CREDITS ON SCOTLANDS PEOPLE,AS IM HAVING TROUBLE LOADING THE ADOPE READER..
im looking this time for HELEN MCDONALD C1845 would like to know where she was on the 1871census for scotland,
helen was a farm servant born archiestown,knockando,moray.also her sister elizabeth born c 1852 same place,parents isabel and john mcdonald.thank you so much.xx

Sorry, Suzanne, I can't find either of them!

thank you for looking.x

Hi

Maybe she married so would have a name change.

Marion

found this IGI

HELLEN MACDONALD Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth: 22 OCT 1845

Christening: 05 NOV 1845 Knockando, Moray, Scotland

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: JOHN MACDONALD Family
Mother: ISABELLA GRANT

hi marian,
yes ive got her birth cert,and ive found her in every census exept the 1871 when she would have been pregnant.x

Possible for Elizabeth.


1871 Scotland Census
about Elizabeth McDonald
Name: Elizabeth McDonald
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relationship: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Knockando, Morayshire
Registration Number: 139
Registration district: Knockando
Civil Parish: Knockando
County: Moray
Address: Uppert Myonair
Occupation: General Serv Domestic
ED: 6
Household schedule number: 51
Line: 15
Roll: CSSCT1871_26
Household Members:
Name Age
Agnes Grant 39
Agnes Grant 10
Elizabeth Grant 5
Hellen Grant 2
Jan Grant 15
Jean Grant 77
Jessie Grant 8
John Grant 43
John Grant 12
William Grant 6 Mo
George Hosack 16
Elizabeth McDonald 16
John McDonald 23
William McDonald 14

Was she married by 1871?

Marion

For reference only


1851 Scotland Census
about Heten McDonald
Name: Heten McDonald
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Isabetta
Gender: Female
Where born: Knockando, Moraysh
Parish Number: 139
Civil Parish: Knockando
Town: Archiestown
County: Moray
Address: Session Mame
ED: 4
Page: 11 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 56
Line: 3
Roll: CSSCT1851_32
Household Members:
Name Age
Heten McDonald 5
Isabetta McDonald 27
James McDonald 8 Mo
John McDonald 35 b Alves, crofter
John McDonald 3

yes that does look like elizabeth,thank you so much..will try the other census years and have a look.x

marion, no she wasnt married in 1871,i cant find her in any census,but i have got the birth cert of her daughter born in 1881 and she was unmarried and working as a house keeper.x

marion, i do subscribe to scotlands people,but im having trouble viewing because i cant install the adobe reader,its so frustrating.x

This is the closest I could find for Helen. Don't know if it's her though.


1871 Scotland Census
about Helen McDonald
Name: Helen McDonald
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relationship: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Elginshire
Registration Number: 137B
Registration district: Forres Landward
Civil Parish: Forres
County: Moray
Address: Edge Hill
Occupation: General Serv
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 9
Line: 21
Roll: CSSCT1871_25
Household Members:
Name Age
Isabella Draime 23
Edith Hunter 10 Mo
Elizabeth Hunter 31
William B Hunter 27
Helen McDonald 23



Liz

Is this the right family in 1881? Is Andrew perhaps Helen's son?


1881 Scotland Census
about Isabella McDonald
Name: Isabella McDonald
Age: 57
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824
Relationship: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Knockando, Morayshire
Registration Number: 139
Registration district: Knockando
Civil Parish: Knockando
County: Moray
Address: South-Side West-End
Occupation: Crofter (Farming 5 Acres)
ED: 6
Household schedule number: 43
Line: 4
Roll: cssct1881_40
Household Members:
Name Age
Andrew McDonald 9
Annie McDonald 22
Isabella McDonald 57
Isabella McDonald 24
Jessie A E McDonald 2 Mo
Lizzie McDonald 26

thats it i think,went to scotland last wk to do research and forres is not far from where she was born and brought up.thank you.x only elizabeth to find in the 1891 census now.x

yes andrew is helens son and my g g grandfather,jessie is elisabeths daughter,both girls were unmarried which im told was common in the highlands and not at all frowned upon.x

Possible? It's a common name though.


1891 Scotland Census
about Elizabeth McDonald
Name: Elizabeth McDonald
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relationship: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Knockando, Morayshire
Registration Number: 128A
Registration district: Boharm
Civil Parish: Boharm
County: Banffshire
Address: Arndilly House Farm
Occupation: Dairymaid
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 47
Line: 5
Roll: CSSCT1891_36
Household Members:
Name Age
Agnes Batchen 8
Agnes Tait Batchen 48
Alexander Batchen 52
Alick Batchen 10
Bessie Batchen 13
William Batchen 6
George Catnach 25
James Cruickshank 15
Elizabeth McDonald 36
John McDonald 18
Lewis Sime 20

And look at this. It may just be a huge coincidence though.

Reference No.:
NM012761
Surname:
BATCHEN
Forename(s):
ELIZABETH
Maiden Name:
MCDONALD
Occupation:

Date of Birth:
c. 1855
Place of Birth:

Father's Name:

Mother's Name:

Biography:


Marriage Details
Spouse's Name:
WILLIAM BATCHEN CARPENTER MAGGIEKNOCKATER
Date of Marriage:

Place of Marriage:

Married by:

Marriage Narrative:
PARENTS OF ELIZABETH
Death Details
Date of Death:
24 SEP 1938
Age:
83
Headstone Ref:
Bh57
Place of Death:

Parish Register:

Death Narrative:


Newspaper Articles
Newspaper

Description

Date

Page/Column

Miscellaneous Articles
Date

Description
Miscellaneous
2007

copy of gravestone inscription in "Monumental Inscriptions" Boharm Churchyard p11 compiled by the Moray Burial Ground Research Group - L 929.5

alviegal,
your a star,ive been looking for her for ages,couldnt even find her when i went up to scotland,its funny though that 10yrs before on her daughters birth cert she was down as a housekeeper,maybe fallen on hard times and had to take what work she could.thanks again.x

Buried in Knockando cemetery.


Biography Details
Reference No.:
NM103081
Surname:
MCDONALD
Forename(s):
ISABELLA
Maiden Name:
GRANT
Occupation:

Date of Birth:
c. 1824
Place of Birth:

Father's Name:

Mother's Name:

Biography:


Marriage Details
Spouse's Name:
JOHN MCDONALD
Date of Marriage:

Place of Marriage:

Married by:
Marriage Narrative:
PARENTS OF ISABELLA & HELEN & ANN & JANE MCDONALD

Death Details
Date of Death:
1898
Age:

Headstone Ref:
Kn148
Place of Death:

Parish Register:

Death Narrative: