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Hi,
I have received my grandads birth certificate this morning,
it list his parents as
Henry Turner (House Painter) Journeyman.
Ada Powell
and my grandad Walter Turner born 1898
his birth is registered as district Pancras, sub district Regents Park,
and there address is given as 6, Pleasant Row, (in Jan 1899)

the only thing i have been able to find is there probable marriage,
in sept 1888 Pancras.
cannot seem to find anything else or find them on the census for either 1891, 1901.
I know my grandad grew up in the kentish/camden town area.
even rung the camden archive section for an electorol look up for the above address, and it just shows there lodger John Smith.

they must be on a census somewhere.

if anybody can help would be really grateful, its giving me a headache!

many thanks
Bev

Marriages Sep 1888 (>99%)
BENNETT Joseph Richard Pancras 1b 146 Scan available - click to view
POWELL Ada Pancras 1b 146 Scan available - click to view
Rogers Clara Pancras 1b 146
Turner Henry Pancras 1b 146

looks like it will have to be the cert

Helen

Hi Helen,
thanks for your reply,
cannot understand why they are not on either the 1891 or 1901 census.
Just seems to be one mystery after another.
thanks
Bev

i can find an ada and henry but no children

Hi Helen,
what year is the Henry and Ada, you have found please and what area,
thanks
Bev

sorry just looked again they were born 1878, to young

Helen

Ok
thanks anyway,
beginning to think they were spys or something!
Bev

it is strange, they must be useing different names or something

We have looked for this Walter before haven't we? but it wasn't you who posted the threads.

We were then looking for one with father Robert as Walter's marriage cert gave the name Robert.

Christine

Hi Christine,
that was my daughter who posted the thread then, while i was on holiday, and Walters marriage cert did say Robert as his father,
but his birth cert definately says Henry,
and this is definately his birth certificate as i had it checked with his date of birth,
i think Robert was meant to be Robert Tuvey who i think brought him up, after his natural father died.
as i have Robert and Ada Tuvey living with him at his address in 1920 when he married.

thanks
Bev

Yes, that was the conclusion we came to that he was probably giving the name and occupation of his stepfather.

Very strange where they were though in 1891/1901.

Seems as if you will have to get the cert to find their ages and father's names to be able to make any further progress.

Christine

1901 England Census
about Walter E Turner
Name: Walter E Turner
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Walter
Mother's Name: Ada S
Gender: Male
Where born: Edmonton, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Edmonton
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Edmonton
Sub registration district: Edmonton
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 73
Household Members:
Name Age
Ada S Turner 31
Florence A Turner 2
Walter Turner 28
Walter E Turner 5

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This is all i can see

Hi Thanks
this isnt them though his father is definately Henry,
this is so frustrating, one of them must be somewhere, i was so excited when i got certificate this morning, now i am banging my head against a brick wall again!
Bev

Ok I am going to have one last try,
I Have received Henry and Adas marriage certificate.
Henry Turner age 22 Fishmonger, father Joseph dealer in birds. living at 23, Sandwich Street.
Ada Powell age 18 father George Powell Warehouseman living at 20 Thanet Street.
Date of marriage August 6th 1888. Pancras, North London.
Witnesses George and Jane Powell,

any help would be great as i am pulling my hair out.

thanks
Bev

Henry Turner son of Joseph and Sarah /Susan Turner
Joseph born 1817 Bridport Dorset, Bird Cage maker
he's not to bad to find on the census.

hav'nt been able to find Henry and Ada as of yet.

on Walters birth cert was Henry still a Fishmonger
if not what was he and what is the address from the birth cert ?? did Walter have more than one name?

Mavis

Have also found a probable match in with my tree.
The gentle men i have contacted as a match, also has Henry and Ada Turner in his tree, but he has children as
Jennie Turner born 1890 at 2 Pleasant Row, High St, St ,Pancras, (note my grandad was born at no 6 Pleasant Row, as this is on his birth certificate)
Jennie is the gentlemens g grandmother,
and Rose born 1892 St Pancras
Alfred Turner born 1897 St Pancras
but he does not have my grandad Walter James Turner born 1898,,
Walters fathers (Henry) occupation was a fishmonger on his marriage certificate, but a housepainter/journeyman on Walters birth certificate.

cannot seem to find any of the above in the census with any of there parents anywhere?

This is driving me mad, so any help, no matter how small would really be appreciated.

In 1901 there is no turner living at either no2 or no6 pleasant row.
There is a joseph turner b1861 st pancras living at no 4 with 3 children Alfred/edward & ernest.

will check 1891.

richard.

Thanks

Think Joseph may be henrys brother, but cannot seem to find Henry or Ada with any of there children on any census?

In 1891 no3 pleasant row.
Joseph turner 1817 bridport. cage maker.
susan (wife) 1831 camden town.
George (son) 1869 camden town. fish salesman.
Rose (grand dau) 1874 kilburn?.

There are no other turners living in pleasant row.

richard.

Hi Richard and Mavis
thanks very much for that, dont undersand why i cannot find henry with his wife or children?

Thanks