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Trying to find Henry and Ada Turner Please

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kidsnpets

kidsnpets Report 18 Nov 2008 17:14

Hi Helen and Janice,
thank you both very, you have been brilliant,
all i need to do is find Henry and Ada somewhere, somehow with there children, so i know they are definately my grandads family.
and i will be happy.
But that is easier said then done!?
Some of them must be on the 1891/1901 census somewhere?

Thanks
Bev

jansmith

jansmith Report 18 Nov 2008 14:46

1871 Turner family
Henry abt 1866 born Camden Town
Alice abt 1852 """"""""""""""""""""
Clara abt 1857 born Islington
George abt 1869 born Camden Town

Joseph abt 1823 born Bridport
Joseph abt 1860 born Camden Town
Rosina abt 1855 born ?Agar Town
Sarah born abt 1831 St Pancras

Helen

Helen Report 18 Nov 2008 12:49


THOMAS TURNER Pedigree
Male Family

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

Marriages:
Spouse: MARTHA CRABB Family
Marriage:
16 FEB 1813 Bridport, Dorset, England

Helen

Helen Report 18 Nov 2008 12:40

JOSEPH TURNER Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth:
28 FEB 1818
Christening:
11 MAY 1818 New Meeting Barrack Street-Independent, Bridport, Dorset, England
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: THOMAS TURNER Family
Mother: MARTHA

Helen

Helen Report 18 Nov 2008 12:39

1. JOSEPH TURNER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 11 MAY 1818 New Meeting Barrack Street-Independent, Bridport, Dorset, England
2. MARY ANN TURNER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 12 AUG 1814 New Meeting Barrack Street-Independent, Bridport, Dorset, England
3. SAMUEL TURNER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 22 JAN 1816 New Meeting Barrack Street-Independent, Bridport, Dorset, England

kidsnpets

kidsnpets Report 18 Nov 2008 11:52

Morning
Thank you Helen and Janice,
this looks like the right family, as i said i found a match with my tree yesterday, but i never take anything for Gospel, so like to double check everything.
On there tree Jennie is Henry and Adas daughter so that would fit with what you found.
Also the names fit for what they have for Adas family,
the only thing i am not sure of is it says Ada was 7 in 1881 born about 1874, but her marriage certificate says she was 18 in 1888, so would have been born in 1870.
Still cant seem to find them on the census together, I did wonder if something happened to Henry when the children were young and the family split and lived with various family members.
As the tree match i found yesterday doesnt have my grandad (Walter) in his tree, but his grandmother is Jennie.
Will carry on looking would like to find Walter and his siblings with at least 1 parent!,
also need to work out who Josephs family were. parents siblings etc.

Thank you for all your help it really is appreciated.

Helen

Helen Report 18 Nov 2008 09:57


1881 England Census
about Ada Powell
Name: Ada Powell
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Mary A.
Gender: Female
Where born: St Pancras, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Pancras
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 27 Sidmouth St
Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Pancras
Sub registration district: Grays Inn Lane
ED, institution, or vessel: 9b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Ada Powell 7
George Powell 44
George J. Powell 21
Henry E. Powell 16
Jane E. Powell 11
Louisa J. Powell 19
Mary A. Powell 42

This looks like ada

jansmith

jansmith Report 18 Nov 2008 09:09

can only see one birth registered Sept qtr 1890 so she should be on 1891 census BUT i haven't found her yet!!

jansmith

jansmith Report 18 Nov 2008 08:59

Thought i would have a look for the Powell family.
Could this be Adas father etc in 1901 ,if so who i wonder is the Turner??
George Powell age 60
wife Mary A
born Bloomsbury
District St Pancras

Mary A born Norwood Surrey



and??
Jenny Turner
Visitor
born St Pancras abt 1891

There is also a
Frederick Fuller
visitor
born Whitechapel abt 1896

kidsnpets

kidsnpets Report 18 Nov 2008 00:04

Now this is getting a bit strange,
my daughter is married to someone with the surname Mann, who comes from St Pancras area of London!

Would still like to find Henry and Ada with at least one of there children

Thanks

jansmith

jansmith Report 17 Nov 2008 23:32

?? 1891
Name: Henry Turner a married man and a lodger with this family
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Loudon, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Gillingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
Town: New Brompton
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Mann 62
Mary Ann Mann 68
Henry Turner 24
Emily Mann 22

kidsnpets

kidsnpets Report 17 Nov 2008 19:55

Hi
thanks for all the replys so far, but i dont think Ada died before Henry, I think she remarried, Robert Tuvey, as on Walters marriage certifcate he has his fathers name as Robert, which i think was his stepdad.
I also rang the St Pancras Library with the address he had on his marriage certificate, and he was living with Ada and Robert Tuvey.
Have had a look for Henry/Harry and still cant find him with any of his children or wife?

thanks

Helen

Helen Report 17 Nov 2008 18:37


1901 England Census
about Henry Turner
Name: Henry Turner
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Male
Where born: Paddington, London, England

Civil Parish: St Luke
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke Old Street
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Holborn
Sub registration district: Finsbury
ED, institution, or vessel: Houseless Poor Asylum

What about this? if ada had died?

jansmith

jansmith Report 17 Nov 2008 18:19

A possible death of Ada?
Ada Alice Turner
age 31 yrs
Pancras
1b vol
137page
March qtr 1900

kidsnpets

kidsnpets Report 17 Nov 2008 17:56

Thanks,
they never liked to make things simple did they! maybe can find him with Ada under that name?

They must be on the census somewhere as a family!

kidsnpets

kidsnpets Report 17 Nov 2008 17:39

Hi
Thanks looks like the right family, but you have Harry instead of Henry?

Anybody having anyluck finding Henry with Ada and any of his children?

Thanks

Helen

Helen Report 17 Nov 2008 17:21


1881 England Census
about Harry Turner
Name: Harry Turner
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: St Pancras, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: St Pancras
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 4 Pleasant Passage
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Slaters Lawler

Registration district: Pancras
Sub registration district: Regents Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 2a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Rosina Day 7
George Turner 12
Harry Turner 15
Joseph Turner 63
Joseph Turner 21
Sarah Turner 50

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Original
Record

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looks like joseph and henry are brothers

kidsnpets

kidsnpets Report 17 Nov 2008 16:44

Hi Richard and Mavis
thanks very much for that, dont undersand why i cannot find henry with his wife or children?

Thanks

Artbeat

Artbeat Report 17 Nov 2008 16:40

In 1891 no3 pleasant row.
Joseph turner 1817 bridport. cage maker.
susan (wife) 1831 camden town.
George (son) 1869 camden town. fish salesman.
Rose (grand dau) 1874 kilburn?.

There are no other turners living in pleasant row.

richard.

kidsnpets

kidsnpets Report 17 Nov 2008 16:20

Thanks

Think Joseph may be henrys brother, but cannot seem to find Henry or Ada with any of there children on any census?