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I'm very new to this and would really appreciate some help. I've managed to trace my grandfarthers family back to the 1841 census but im really not sure about how to go any further. The 1841 census shows William and Elizabeth Masters in Bedford with their family it also shows a Robert Masters aged 80 at the same address I would love to know if Robert is Williams father but im just not sure how to find out.

How old was William and Elizabeth in 1841?

...and do you mean the Town of Bedford, Bedfordshire or Bedfordshire?

William and Elizabeth were both 35 and its the county of Bedford I've found their son Charles and it says he was born in Bigglesworth Bedford. Not sure if that helps?

1881 census

William MASTERS Head M Male 44 Hatley, Bedford, England Carman
Lydia MASTERS Wife M Female 39 Oakley, Essex, England
William MASTERS Son Male 13 St Georges In The E, Middlesex, England Cigar Maker
Arthur MASTERS Son Male 11 Stepney, Middlesex, England Scholar
Walter MASTERS Son Male 8 Stepney, Middlesex, England Scholar
James MASTERS Son Male 4 Stepney, Middlesex, England Scholar
Thomas SCOTT Lodger Male 17 St Georges In The E, Middlesex, England Carmans Boy


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Source Information:
Dwelling 9 Croydon Rd
Census Place West Ham, Essex, England
Family History Library Film 1341408
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 1710 / 131
Page Number 86

More likley to be Biggleswade, Bedfordshire...(not far from me!)

Try.....

www.FamilySearch.org

1881 census

Charles MASTERS Head M Male 55 Biggleswade, Bedford, England Publician
Sarah MASTERS Wife M Female 58 Warden, Bedford, England Publician Wife
Charlotte MASTERS Daur U Female 28 Wrestlingworth, Bedford, England Publician Daur


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Source Information:
Dwelling Public House
Census Place Wrestlingworth, Bedford, England
Family History Library Film 1341389
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 1628 / 42
Page Number 12

Charles Masters Compact Disc #111 Pin #780074 Pedigree
Sex: M

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Event(s)
Birth: abt 1826

England
Death: 16 Sep 1906

Unknown

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Parents

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Marriage(s)
Spouse: Catherine Mary Grist Disc #111 Pin #780075
Marriage: bef 1851
Unknown


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Notes and Sources
Notes: None
Sources: None

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Submitter
Martin Jeffrey NICHOLLS
128 De Little Circuit Greenway, ACT 2900


this is the same birth year as the one above

Thankyou for that, Charles and Sarah had a son called George who is my granddads great grandfather.

i have just put a search on family search for william masters born 1806 and it came back with John Masters and Sarah Masters but nothing else, i've never used this site before so any tips would be fantastic!

Can you give us the exact details for the 1841 with Robert, as I can't find it.

This is the only William & Elizabeth I can find in Bedfordshire so far & there's no Robert with them.


1841
William Master abt 1817 Bedfordshire, England Puddington, Bedfordshire
Elizabeth Master abt 1806 Bedfordshire, England Puddington, Bedfordshire

IGI Individual Record
WILLIAM MASTERS Marriages:
Spouse: ELIZABETH TWELVETREES
Marriage: 10 OCT 1824 Biggleswade, Bedford, England



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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

M003612 1813 - 1882

Results for: British Isles
Father: William Masters, Mother: Elizabeth
Batch Number: C003612

1. ELIZA MASTERS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 25 NOV 1827 Biggleswade, Bedford, England

2. DAVID MASTERS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 17 OCT 1830 Biggleswade, Bedford, England

3. CHARLES MASTERS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 24 APR 1825 Biggleswade, Bedford, England

Results for: British Isles
Father: Robert Masters
Batch Number: P003611

1. MARTHA MASTERS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 01 JUL 1793 Biggleswade, Bedford, England

2. THOMAS MASTERS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 12 JAN 1792 Biggleswade, Bedford, England

3. JOHN MASTERS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 20 SEP 1801 Biggleswade, Bedford, England


He might just be extended family.

I think so to as there is also a Jacob aged 10 he is listed under all the children even though he is older than 3 of them. thankyou all again.x

Kristina, this is an excellent thread for learning about the IGI

http://www.genesreunited.com/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=700931

Kristina, I'm not sure if you've given us the correct details. There is no Jacob Masters/variant born 1831 according to search.

Are you sure you have the right year?

Can't you give us the reference numbers?

Ozi.

the reference number is HO 107/2/11. Do you think that Robert could be Williams Grandfather? Thankyou for the thread.

Well I wondered about that. It's not impossible for him to be his grandfather but both generations would have had to marry very young.

Ozi.

Found them - here they are for the info.

1841 England Census
Name: Robert Marten
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1791
Gender: Male
Where born: Bedfordshire, England

Civil Parish: Cockayne Hatley
Hundred: Biggleswade
County/Island: Bedfordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Biggleswade
Sub registration district: Potton
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Marten 35
Elizzebeth Marten 35
Charles Marten 4
David Marten 10
Mary Marten 8
Lucy Marten 6
William Marten 4
Jacob Marten 10 Mo
Robert Marten 50


Charles is 15, not 4. Jacob is 10 months, not 10 years. Both Robert & William are ag labs. Robert's age could be 80 but difficult to say for sure.

Ozi.

Thankyou so much! The only problem is the name do you think im completley off track or is it just a typo?