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not one but two 'lost' update,certs here

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Bev

Bev Report 29 Oct 2008 13:11

for refs the family in 1881

Francis Nurton
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Stogursey, Somerset, England

Civil Parish: Stogursey
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street address: Church St Cottage
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Agr Labourer

Registration district: Williton
Sub registration district: Stogursey
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Nurton 47
Francis Nurton 15
James Nurton 19
John Nurton 45
Rose Nurton 12
William Nurton 8

that is the last i see of Francis george and Rosina

have checked freebmd for marriages/deaths

in 1891 & 1901 john & Ann have sidney nurton their grandson (aged 9 & 18yrs respectively) living with them

i have no idea whether this is francis's or rosinas child

any help in tracking these two down after 1881 would be appriciated

Bev

Potty

Potty Report 29 Oct 2008 13:17

Surely Rose would have been too young to be Sidney's (b 1882) mother? Have you found the older brother John on any census after 1881?

Joan

Joan Report 29 Oct 2008 13:19

Here's something to think about...it's possible that although staying with grandparents at the time of the census, he actually was residing with his parents Francis and Mary.

1891 England Census
about Sidney Nurton
Name: Sidney Nurton
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Francis
Mother's Name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: Stogursey, Somerset, England

Civil Parish: Stogursey
Ecclesiastical parish: Stogursey
Town: Stogursey
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Williton
Sub registration district: Stogursey
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Francis Nurton 43
Mary A Nurton 39
Sidney Nurton 6

Potty

Potty Report 29 Oct 2008 13:19

Sidney's birth reg - the cert would solve the problem:

Births Dec 1882 (>99%)

Nurton Sydney Williton 5c 300

Joan

Joan Report 29 Oct 2008 13:20

Again, in 1901...

1901 England Census
about Sidney Nurton
Name: Sidney Nurton
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Francis H
Mother's Name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: Williton, Somerset, England

Civil Parish: Stogursey
Ecclesiastical parish: Stogursey St Andrew
Town: Stogursey
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Williton
Sub registration district: Stogursey
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 102
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred G Nurton 5
Francis F Nurton 9
Francis H Nurton 61
Mary A Nurton 53
Rose Nurton 5
Sidney Nurton 16

Bev

Bev Report 29 Oct 2008 13:21

potty

i ws just looking at that and thinking the same

the older boy james aka hanry james is my gt grandfather i have all his info up until 1901 census, he married mary ann dibble and they went on to have & raise 10 kids

they married in 1881 so if sidney was theirs why did he live with his grandparents?

Bev

Bev Report 29 Oct 2008 13:23

thanks potty will send for that

but its Rosina and Francis i am really interested in

i am in contact with a lady who is def related, just trying to work out how lol

Joan

Joan Report 29 Oct 2008 13:24

Here are some other Nurton births in Williton.

Exact Search Results - England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983

Eva Nurton 1885 Apr-May-Jun Williton Somerset

Fanny Nurton 1885 Oct-Nov-Dec Williton Somerset

Francis George Nurton 1884 Oct-Nov-Dec Williton Somerset

Thelma

Thelma Report 29 Oct 2008 13:28

birth
Rosina Nurton 1868 Apr-May-Jun Williton Somerset
death??
Rose Nurton abt 1869 1885 Williton Somerset

Bev

Bev Report 29 Oct 2008 13:29

the francis george birth is too young for my francis mine was bc 1866

not sure about the marriage, the date would fit, i saw it and dismissed it as being the francis and mary ann that joan has posted above

but looking at it again it may not be

ummm

Bev

Bev Report 29 Oct 2008 13:30

oh jim

yes that is a possible

do you have the ref for that?

Joan

Joan Report 29 Oct 2008 13:30

Here's a marriage for a Rose Nurton but not until 1911.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Rose Nurton
Name: Rose Nurton and William Payne
Year of Registration: 1911
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Williton
County: Somerset
Volume: 5c
Page: 559

Bev

Bev Report 29 Oct 2008 13:32

eva above is the daughter of henry james, francis's brother

Bev

Bev Report 29 Oct 2008 13:33

joan

again that is the daughter of henry james lol

confusing isnt it lol

Bev

Bev Report 29 Oct 2008 13:39

joan

my john (father of francis & rosina as per my first post of the 1881 census)

married Ann King sept 1859 stogursey (reg district williton)

Joan

Joan Report 29 Oct 2008 13:40

Bev,

Found this death record for a Rose Nuton--how does this one connect into your family?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Rose Nurton
Name: Rose Nurton
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Year of Registration: 1885
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 16
District: Williton
County: Somerset
Volume: 5c
Page: 181

Bev

Bev Report 29 Oct 2008 13:42

their eldest son

henry james nurton married mary ann dibble 20th dec 1881 again stogursey

they had 10 children between 1885 and 1900

(maybe 11 if the sidney living with john & ann turns out to be theirs)

hope that helps to clarify lol

Bev

Bev

Bev Report 29 Oct 2008 13:43

i think that might be Rosina the d/o john and ann

the dates fit ie bornc 1869 and the last record i can find for her is the 1881 census

i will have to send for the cert to prove, and hope that the informant is one of her parents

Bev

Bev Report 29 Oct 2008 13:51

the prob i have with the marriage that AnnMC found is that there is only one francis & mary ann nurton on the 1891 and 1901 census and he is too old to be mine

plus thier son sidney is 6 in 1891, (ok they could have waited before getting married) and i cannot find an earlier marriage for francis and mary ann

Joan

Joan Report 29 Oct 2008 14:16

I can't find any record (birth, marriage or death that fits with Francis b. abt 1866). Is it possible that he may have been a George Francis or Francis George? Your gr. grandfather was Henry James but listed as James on the census.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about George Nurton
Name: George Nurton
Year of Registration: 1865
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Williton
County: Somerset
Volume: 5c
Page: 409

I then found this record, possible son?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Francis George Nurton
Name: Francis George Nurton
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Year of Registration: 1885
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 0
District: Williton
County: Somerset
Volume: 5c
Page: 241