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UPDATE JAMES DIXON AND ELIZABETH CARRICK 1851 CENS

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Kathleen

Kathleen Report 1 Nov 2008 15:55

Hi, the marriage cert for James dixon and Elizabeth Carrick arrived today. I have what I need for now on James Dixon, but was a bit surprised to find Elizabeths father was called Christopher Carrick, he was a Brewer. he was deceased in 1874 when Elizabeths marriage took place, they were married in The Reg office Carlisle 1874. I have elizabeth on 1871 census, living with her son, as an unmarried mother. I would like to find her in 1841/51/61 with parents.
if anyone can help, the area would be either Cumberland or Lancanshire. she gives her birthplace as Liverpool on some later census, so not sure wher she was born. she was born, but would have been about 1845c

Any help welcome

Best wishes
Kathy

Sue C

Sue C Report 1 Nov 2008 16:27

This looks to be Christopher in 1841.

Occupation Brewer, born out of the county.

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STUBBS, Peter M 75 1766
STUBBS, Sarah F 75 1766
NORRIS, Jas M 25 1816 Lancashire
NORRIS, Mary Ann F 25 1816 Lancashire
NORRIS, Wm M 0 (7 months) 1841 Lancashire
>>>CARRICK, Christopher M 30 1811
>>>CARRICK, Ann* F 25 1816 Lancashire
>>>CARRICK, Thomas M 4 1837 Lancashire
>>>CARRICK, Mary F 1 1840 Lancashire

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RG number:
HO107 Piece:
520 Book/Folio:
1/4 Page:
1

Registration District:
Derby, West Sub District:
Derby, West EnumerationDistrict:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Walton On The Hill Municipal Borough:
Liverpool Address:
Brunswick Road, Walton On The Hill, Derby, West, Liverpool County:
Lancashire

EVEIE

EVEIE Report 1 Nov 2008 16:30


Name: Elizabeth Carrick
Year of Registration: 1844
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Carlisle
County: Cumbria, Cumberland
Volume: 25
Page: 48 (click to see others on page

Lost for Words ;-)

Lost for Words ;-) Report 1 Nov 2008 16:35

Possible deaths for Christopher

Deaths Jun 1847 (>99%)
Carrick Christopher W Derby 20 1238
Deaths Sep 1848 (>99%)
Carrick Christopher W Derby 20 761

EVEIE

EVEIE Report 1 Nov 2008 16:35

Name: Elizabeth Carrick
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool
Civil Parish: Botchergate
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Carlisle
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Carlisle
Sub registration district: St Cuthbert
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 78
Household Members: Name Age
David Carrick 4
Elizabeth Carrick 26


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Lost for Words ;-)

Lost for Words ;-) Report 1 Nov 2008 16:38

Could this be Ann remarrying

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1852
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
CARRICK Ann M LEEVES George E Liverpool, St. Peter Liverpool 2122LP/25/418
DORAN Ann M LEEVES George E Liverpool, St. Peter Liverpool 2122LP/25/418
LEEVES George E CARRICK Ann M Liverpool, St. Peter Liverpool 2122LP/25/418
LEEVES George E DORAN Ann M Liverpool, St. Peter Liverpool 2122LP/25/418

Lost for Words ;-)

Lost for Words ;-) Report 1 Nov 2008 16:53

This could be for the birth above so perhaps not your Elizabeth

IGI Individual Record FamilySearchâ„¢ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles

ELIZABETH CARRICK Female

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 03 NOV 1844 Christ Church, Carlisle, Cumberland, England
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: JOHN CARRICK
Mother: MARY

Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C046051 1831 - 1846 0090587 Film 6904650 Film
C046051 1850 - 1875 0090588 Film NONE
Sheet: 00

Kathleen

Kathleen Report 1 Nov 2008 17:29

hi, if ann remarried:

CARRICK Ann M LEEVES George E Liverpool, St. Peter Liverpool 2122LP/25/418

Can anyone find her on 1851 census, Elizabeth would be about 6or 7 and should be with her mother.

Thanks for all your help.

cheers
Kathy

Kathleen

Kathleen Report 1 Nov 2008 17:30

hi, sorry she remarried in 1852, so would be widowed in 1851.

Thanks
Kathy

Kathleen

Kathleen Report 1 Nov 2008 18:27

Hi, I have just found this death which could be Anns.

Deaths Sep 1853
Leeves Anne Maria W. Derby 8b 213

Hear is what I think is her remarriage

Marriages Dec 1852
Anne Maria Liverpool 8 14
George Edgar Liverpool 8b 14

Poor soul did'nt have much of a life, its more importent that I find her in 1851 now as she may not be on any other census, also what ever happend to the other children as posted in 1841

CARRICK, Thomas M 4 1837 Lancashire
CARRICK, Mary F 1 1840 Lancashire

They would have been abt, 15 and 11 in 1851.

Can anyone find the 1851 census please.

Cheers
Kathy



Kathleen

Kathleen Report 1 Nov 2008 21:03

NUGDE

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 1 Nov 2008 21:23

Possible?

1861 England Census
Name: Thomas Carrick
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Seaman
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool

Civil Parish: Vessels
Town: At Sea
County/Island: Misc Ships At Sea or Abroad
Country: England

Occupation: seaman

Condition as to marriage: single

Registration district: Misc Ships
Sub registration district: Misc Ships
ED, institution, or vessel: Sardinia (2)

Longish list of crew.

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 1 Nov 2008 21:26

1871 England Census
Name: Thomas Carrick
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool
Civil Parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 171 Mill St

Occupation: Pugger

Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 170
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Carrick 34
Margaret Carrick 30
William Carrick 2
Julia Ruma 70


Marriages Sep 1861
Carrick Thomas W Derby 8b 690
Naylor Margaret W Derby 8b 690
Smith Sarah W Derby 8b 690


Kathleen

Kathleen Report 1 Nov 2008 21:29

Hi Ozibird, you might have son in census but where was mother, I wonder, Elizabeth would be about 6, I wonder if she was living as the wife of George E Leeves she married hin 1853ish

going out soon will catch up tomorrow, thanks Ozibird you are a big help on the boards, I dont know what I would do without you.
Cheers
Kathy

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 1 Nov 2008 21:31

Marriages Mar 1855
Hargreaves Robert Liverpool 8b 101
LEEVES George Edgar Liverpool 8b 101
THOMAS Elizabeth Liverpool 8b 101
WOODS Jane Liverpool 8b 101

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 1 Nov 2008 21:37

No luck with anybody else so far. Can't even find George Leeves.

I'll keep searching. I have to go out myself later, but will update throughout the day if I find anything.

Ozi.

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 1 Nov 2008 22:44

IGI Individual
THOMAS CARRICK
Birth: 04 JAN 1837
Christening: 20 FEB 1837 Saint Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Parents:
Father: CHRISTOPHER CARRICK
Mother: ANN
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
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Source Information:
Batch No.: P020274
Dates: 1833 - 1835, 1835 - 1837, 1837 - 1839




Also - same source info.

IGI Individual Record
THOMAS CARRICK
Birth: 04 JAN 1837
Christening: 20 FEB 1837 Saint Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Parents:
Father: CHRISTOPHER CARRICK
Mother: ANN

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 1 Nov 2008 22:56

Just gotta wonder about this one!


Marriages Mar 1866
>>>Carrick Mary Liverpool 8b 409
>>>DIXON Thomas Liverpool 8b 409
MARTIN Margaret A Liverpool 8b 409
Southward George Liverpool 8b 409



1871 England Census
Name: Mary Dixon
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthias
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 4 Carlton St

Occupation:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Liverpool
Sub registration district: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 49
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 65
Household Members: Name Age
Ann McKeever 60
Mary McKeever 24
Rose McKeever 23
James Marris 30 } looks like Morris
Anne Marris 26 } "
Rose Anne Marris 2 } "
Fanny Norris 2 } definitely Norris
William Norris 2 months } "
Thomas Dixon 30 - dock labourer; Ireland; lodging with the McKeevers
Mary Dixon 30
Mary Jane Dixon 5




Kathleen

Kathleen Report 2 Nov 2008 15:18

Hi Ozibird, that is a odd one, I wonder if there is a conection, Carrick and Dixon second generation? Although this thomas came from ireland, and I cant face another Irish ancester, 3 are more than enough.
Still hoping for 1851 censu for Ann Carrick, she got to be somewhere!

Cheers
Kathy

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 2 Nov 2008 21:11

I've just noticed I repeated Thomas's christening below. I meant to post this one.

IGI Individual Record
CHRISTOPHER CARRICK
Christening: 17 SEP 1838 Saint Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Parents:
Father: CHRISTOPHER CARRICK
Mother: ANN

Same source info as Thomas.

Births Sep 1838
CARRICK Christopher West Derby 20 859
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Deaths Dec 1839
CARRICK Christopher West Derby 20 761



Re "2nd generation Carrick/Dixon" wasn't Mary her elder sister? It would be the same generation, perhaps even the same Dixon!! It would make sense as far as Elizabeth moving away from Liverpool.

Ozi.