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Hi people!!
Can I just say a big thanks to one and all for inputting into this thread! Hope I didn't make too much of anuiscance of myself. Derek, I've sent you a pm in case you have not got it already!!!
Cheers again, and seasons greetings to one and all!!!
Sean!

Hi Barbara.thanks for that....grones????? lol..

All the best everybody


Derek

Just one last thing people....
I was just going back to try and get some further info... And, am confused. The reason. Well, I have John's fathers name as... John. Ok, no prob. But, am unclear as to mothers maiden name. Now, I'm not sure if its a typo, or, if it's genuine, but, it kind of makes out that Elizabeth, (mother's) maiden name was poss "Hornley"?!?!?! Is this a weirrrddd coinicidence, or, do you think its a mistake on the system. I'm prob not making myslef very clear, so apologies, but any advice, would again, as per usual be much appreciated, (even if it's "give up!") :)

Hey sean..i have his birth certificate as i told you..and his mother is Hornby........Cassiday was probablr right about the mistranscription..but I'm still not entirely happy that the entry also shows John W.
We know without doubt that he was John Albert..
It seems too much of a co-incidence that Hornley might be Elizabeth's maiden name....
My feeling is to go with the facts as you now know them.and ignore Hornley......

Derek

1871

Name: Elizabeth Henby (actually Hornby)
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Wife
Gender: Female
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Holy Trinity
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Kingston Upon Hull
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Hull
Sub registration district: Myton
ED, institution, or vessel: 53
Household schedule number: 95

Elizabeth Henby 26 Marine engineer's wife
Alfred Hornby 5
Anne Hornby 1
Edith Hornby 8
Thomas Hornby 3

all children said to be born Hull but Alfred seems to have been born in Goole (and becomes Spencer in 1881).

possible marriage

1861 OND Sculcoates

John Hornby / Elizabeth Susannah Bell

Volume: 9d
Page: 279


and Elizabeth Susannah Bell was registered in Sculcoates in 1843

Andy

That's another GOOD lead from Andy..becasue the birth Certificate shows mother as Elizabeth S......
Derek

Well done,Andy.

In the Family that Andy has mentioned,Johns' sister,Edith is not in the 1881 census under her maiden name....so I have a possible marriage for her in Q1 of 1881;

Leonard Hill [born c 1857,Hull]and Edith Alice Hornby.

In the census taken for 1881,they are residing @ 74,Alicia Street,Sulcoates,Yorkshire.

Following on again,from Andy's info;

John's brother,Thomas is in the 1881 census @ District Port of Hull Societys Sailors Orphan home,as a Scholar.

What a thread! I've enjoyed reading it.

Ozi.

LOL

Another plus for Andy....just noticed that the father John hornby is a marine engineer.....having bought the birth Certificate to make up for my sins..thats exactly what it says on the cert..Marine Engineer

Derek

Hey people! I've been ofline for a while, and have just popped on! Wow!! Lot's of info! Will try and get my head around it and see what I can find ou!!! Many many thanks to all concerned!!!!!