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Debbie

Debbie Report 2 Mar 2009 22:45

I have what i think is my gggg grandfathers christening James st john
born 22/5/1843
christened 11/6/1843 in st marylebone
says parents names are James and Louisa
Could anyone help me find any other reference to the parents
My nan (who im doing tree for) has written down that the mother was Eliza but i think she was just doing random searches for st john and they seemed to do lol
To be honest ive not got a clue with this side of the family!

Mistycat

Mistycat Report 2 Mar 2009 22:59

1851 England Census about James St John
Name: James St John
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Louisa
Gender: Male
Where born: Marylebone, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: Rectory
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address:.....4 Graffton Court:

Registration district: Marylebone
Name Age
George Eke 46
Mary Anne Eke 50
George Eke 20
James St John 35......Lodger's....Carpenter
Louisa St John 44
James St John 10
Edward Hacket 15
Dennis Lawley 42
Susan Lawley 35
George Bentley 27
Eliza White 8

Misty x

Debbie

Debbie Report 2 Mar 2009 23:00

Thanks for the look up x

Pam

Pam Report 2 Mar 2009 23:02


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JAMES HENRY ST JOHN
Male


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Event(s):
Birth: 22 MAY 1843

Christening: 11 JUN 1843 Saint Mary-St Marylebone Road, Saint Marylebone, London, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: JAMES ST JOHN
Mother: LOUISA


Pam

Pam Report 2 Mar 2009 23:04

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1864 (>99%)
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Burrows Fanny Marylebone 1a 926
Stevens Ellen Marylebone 1a 926
St John James Henry Marylebone 1a 926
Woollard Henry William Marylebone 1a 926

Mistycat

Mistycat Report 2 Mar 2009 23:07

1861
Name: James St John
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Lucy
Gender: Male
Where born: London, England
Civil Parish: St Marylebone
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address: 5 North street

Occupation:

Name Age
James St John 43....Carpenter
Lucy St John 29
James St John 17...carpenter
William St John 2

Misty x

Debbie

Debbie Report 2 Mar 2009 23:10

thank you for the posts.
I got a bit confused in first post too, they all seem to be called bloody James lol
James (who was married to Louisa) father was James c1796 and mother Eliza Algar St John c1798 i am trying to trace too.
Theyre on the 61 census age 63 and 65 but cant find anything else. It says on there that James was born in wales.
God i wish they all had different names!!!! lol

Pam

Pam Report 2 Mar 2009 23:11

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about James St John
Name: James St John
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817
Year of Registration: 1892
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 75
District: Kensington
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1a
Page: 90

Pam

Pam Report 2 Mar 2009 23:14

James St John born between 1816 and 1820 , Lymington, Hampshire

Pam

Pam Report 2 Mar 2009 23:17

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1841 England Census
about James St John
Name: James St John
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Gender: Male

Civil Parish: St Marylebone
Hundred: Ossulstone (Holborn Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Registration district: St Marylebone
Sub registration district: All Souls and Trinity
Neighbors:
Household Members: Name Age
James St John 20 Carpenter, Not of this county




Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 675; Book: 2; Civil Parish: St Marylebone; County: Middlesex; Enumeration District: 3; Folio: 8; Page: 8; Line: 4; GSU roll: 438791.



Mistycat

Mistycat Report 2 Mar 2009 23:20

1851 England Census about James A St John
Name: James A St John
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1796
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza A
Gender: Male
Where born: Laugharne, Carmarthenshire, Wales
Civil Parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen the Martyr
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address:...18 North Bank

Occupation:...Literary Man..Author?

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

View Image
Registration district: Marylebone
Sub registration district: St John
Household Members:
Name Age
James A St John 55
Eliza A St John 52
James A St John 21..Son...Secretary..Author ?
Helen C St John 19...Daug
Van Ireton S St John 12...Son
Mary St John 30...Daug
Oliver C St John 5...Grandson
John Gorman 60
Harriet Goiling 57
Charles Henry 44
Salina Deacon 23
Rebecca Deade 52

Misty x

Debbie

Debbie Report 2 Mar 2009 23:24

Thats wonderful, thank you!
Misty on the last post u put how would i find out who the other household members st john were ie children etc? would i need to pay to view the transcript?

Mistycat

Mistycat Report 2 Mar 2009 23:28

Do you have Ancestry....if not yes

I will take a look

Misty x

Debbie

Debbie Report 2 Mar 2009 23:29

that would be really kind of u, thanks x

Pam

Pam Report 2 Mar 2009 23:30

Possible second marriage for James

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1858 (>99%)
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>>>James Lucy Lambeth 1d 406
Kalthoeber Charles John Lambeth 1d 406
Penn Elizabeth Lambeth 1d 406
>>>St John James Lambeth 1d 406


1861 England Census
about James St John
Name: James St John
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Lucy
Gender: Male
Where born: Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: St Marylebone
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Registration district: Marylebone
Sub registration district: Rectory
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 169
Household Members: Name Age
James St John 43 Head
Lucy St John 29 Wife
James St John 17 Son
William St John 2 Son

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 74; Folio: 56; Page: 32; GSU roll: 542568.




Mistycat

Mistycat Report 2 Mar 2009 23:32

Have added to my last post...1851

Misty x

Debbie

Debbie Report 2 Mar 2009 23:34

Thanks Pam. I found out James was married twice - firstly to louisa and had a child (james funnily enough lol) then he married Lucy
I have noticed the St John men seem to like being married twice!

Debbie

Debbie Report 2 Mar 2009 23:37

Id like to thank everyone for all their help. This is such a friendly and helpful site, im so glad i have joined because id be lost without it x

Mistycat

Mistycat Report 2 Mar 2009 23:37

Oliver is the son of Mary....born Bath Somerset c 1846

Misty x

Pam

Pam Report 2 Mar 2009 23:41

1881 England Census
about James St John
Name: James St John
Age: 63
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Lucy
Gender: Male
Where born: Lymington, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Marylebone
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 15 Paradise St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:
Occupation: Carpenter

Registration district: Marylebone
Sub registration district: Rectory
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors:
Household Members: Name Age
James St John 63 Head
Lucy St John 51 Wife
William St John 21 Son