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Marriage of John & 'Elizabeth' Amor c 1858 in Lond

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WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 31 Mar 2009 14:28

How bizarre all 3 of us came up with the same theory!!!


Tracey x

Potty

Potty Report 31 Mar 2009 14:31

Couldn't find a suitable Benjamin birth, but found Perigrin's:


Births Dec 1851 (>99%)

SPENCER Peregrin Lambeth 4 306

Heather

Heather Report 31 Mar 2009 14:40

Tell you what, though, I can't find a birth for an Elizabth Sophia c 1841 or George c 1847 or Frank E in 1854! All are said to have been born in Lambeth. Perthaps I'm just tired now. Where's my Jewish relative though???

Potty

Potty Report 31 Mar 2009 14:45

Haven't find Elizabeth Sophia's birth yet, but there is this christening on family search for an Eliza, and on the 1841 there is an Eliza of the right age (as well as Elizabeth):

Eliza Spencer Pedigree
Birth:
Christening: 28 OCT 1838 Saint Mary, Lambeth, Surrey, England

Parents:
Father: George Spencer Family
Mother: Ann Maria

Potty

Potty Report 31 Mar 2009 14:56

Not sure about this birth - the 1841 image shows Elizabeth as 18 months (mistranscribed as 16); the census was taken on 6th June, so that makes her birth Jan 1840, so perhaps this is a bit early or perhaps they couldn't count:

Births Sep 1839 (>99%)
Spencer Elizabeth Lambeth 4 261

Heather

Heather Report 31 Mar 2009 17:13

I've just noticed: 1861 census, Elizabeth seems to be recorded both with her parents and with the Amors. Might this be that her parents put her name down because she usually lived there, although she was staying with the Amors? Or might it be that they thought there were some funny goings on while Maria was ill and they wanted to somehow dispel the thought? John didn't lose much time marrying her after all. I assume she wasn't another Elizabeth Spencer without the S, perhaps Maria's nurse or the children's carer? How on earth can one know?
Also, Elizabeth Spencer's birth. There's speculation that she might have been born in 1840 (16-18 months old at 1841 census) yet there's a record of the christening of an Eliza in 1838; definitely her parents? Might there have been a neonatal death - I'll look.

Heather

Heather Report 1 Apr 2009 10:35

Still puzzling over Eliza Spencer's christening in 1838. Anyone got any suggestions. This really is too early for Elizabeth and there is an Eliza Spencer born in that quarter in Lambeth but I can't find a death in Lambeth in the right period. There's one in Marylebone (not very close to Lambeth) and in 'London' and in Epping, which is where George was born?? The only Lambeth death is before Eliza was christened.