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When James and Martha married they were both living in Northington St. Manchester, so would expect them both to be living somewhere round there on the 1891 census.
Pat

Yes the Martha Warburton in the 1891 census is correct. But what we are unable to find out is the names of both parents and siblings of James Miller b 1873 in Liverpool. We know that his father John Miller was a dock labourer. Thankyou for your help. Clare.

Any more info please ,on James Miller 1873?

Hi Rootgatherer,
This is Clare's mum Pat. We were sure that the James and Euphemia family was the right one,but now we have doubts.James's father was listed as a broker, and then in Manchester he was a dock labourer. We have now a birth cert. which may be for the James Miller in the workhouse....Born subdistrict Howard St.Liverpool, Ref 403.
Born 28th March1873, 2b 2hos Milton St.
Father...John, Dock Labourer , Mother.....Mary,formerley Riley. This was registered in the 2nd quarter on 17th May 1873.
On James marriage cert, on 31st Aug 1895 at St Albans, Cath Church, Mcr. their ages are......James 21 and Martha 19.We wondered if they had to produce birth certs to get married in those days. His age on the birth cert. corresponds to the Manchester Census'.
We cannot find a death for James in Manchester, he is not with his family,if he was in the Manchester reg. there may be a chance that he died in the 14-18 war,and my mother was told wrong
I am sending for the Marriage cert, mentioned earlier,of the Mary we think may be his daughter.This is in 1918,so it should tell us if he was dead or alive. Thanks for all your help.
Pat

Does anyone have any information about the following family
John Miller occupation dock labourer,
Mary Miller formerley Riley,
Only known son James Miller birth 28th March 1873, but birth not registered until 17th May 1873.
Address 2b 2hos Milton st, Sub district Howard St, Liverpool.
We are unable to find a marriage for John and Mary. Any help with this would be very appreciated. Thanks Clare.

We have not seen this. It could be them before James was born. The witnesses on James marriage certificate are M.E. Connell and a P. Connell. They could be his sister Mary. E. and her husband.
Thankyou for your help. Clare.

Yes it would, what we would like to find is a marriage for a Mary Miller and a P. Connell. We,ve been unable to find one so far. Thanks for your help.Clare.