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I hope someone has a knowledge of the Wigan area please? I have a 1863 m/cert for the Parish of Christchurch, Ashton, Lancaster. Job Povey's residence at time of marriage is given as Ashton, but Harriet Driver's residence is illegible, but looks like Au...ly P.... near Wigan. Anyone have any ideas please, bearing in mind its 1863 and could be an area that no longer exists! Thanks Linda

Thanks i will have a look at those 2 sites.

No luck with those websites, maybe someone else has an idea?

Beginning with "A".................Aspull, Appley Bridge, or Abram.

Google WIGAN and check for yourself but to be fair, its a modern map.

Hi,

As Alan says it could be Appley Bridge which is near Wigan and is still there! I live nearby so if I can help I will. Regards.

Might P*=Parish

Hi Cynthia thanks for your offer of help. Just to confuse things a little further..... I have had another set of eyes look at it and they think its not an A but a fancy H for the beginning word, but agree it looks like the word ends in LY. The second opinion on the second word is that it starts with a fancy P with 3 or 4 letters after it but no downward strokes so more like PEER? However, someone else suggested all ONE WORD but with a break in the writing between the Y and the P? To recap it looks like H/AUCLY PEERS!!!

Have you got Harriet Driver on a census - just a thought? Or I suppose you could send away for her birth certificate but the earliest birth I can see on freebmd is 1848 in Warrington!!

Will keep my thinking cap on.

How old was Harriet?

What was her father's name?

On the 1863 m/cert Harriet Driver is a widow (father's name Robert Lees) aged 36 marrying Job Povey widower age 33. However, cannot find them on 1871 but they are living in Hollingworth on 1881 census but Job and Harriet are now given as both age 52, so someone fibbing on m/cert about age! Incidentally, as mentioned in another thread, can find no marriage for Harriet Lees to first husband Daniel Driver but were living together in Somerset in 1861 census.

I'm really supposed to be ironing but what about these?


Hindley Green and Astley (formerly Astley Green) which are nearer to the Leigh side of Wigan.


Wigan is a funny old place really and places on the outskirts, like Appley Bridge, have a Wigan post code but come under West Lancashire Council whilst Billinge (to the south of Wigan) also has a Wigan post code but comes under St. Helens council.


No wonder it's confusing!!!

Hi Cynthia, sorry to be stopping you ironing... but this is so much more fun! Either Hindly Green or Astley Green could fit if i try to read it by squinting! Thanks for that it gives me somethere to start anyway. Linda

I remember this woman now....there was masses of info on your thread about Harriet and Daniel......

1861 census for her.........

Name: Harriett Driver
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Daniel
Gender: Female
Where born: Mysterton, Somerset, England

Civil parish: St Decuman
Ecclesiastical parish: Bath and Wells
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England


Registration district: Williton
Sub-registration district: Williton
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 97
Household Members: Name Age
Daniel Driver 38
Harriett Driver 32
George Driver 9
Edwin Driver 6
Maslid Driver 4
Henery Driver 1
Mary Driver 1
Joseph Hutchings 38
Joseph Hutchings 13
John Rowe 40

Sorry Ricochet, i know i have enquired previously about her marriage to Daniel Driver, but as i got nowhere i have moved onto her next marriage to Job Povey. Sometimes it helps to come at things from another angle.

I wasn't being critical......just posted 1861 in case it helped with locating her in 1871, which you say you have been unable to do.

I find it odd that there is no death reg'n for a Daniel Driver which looks likely to be her first 'husband'

Was Job a widower when he married Harriet?

1861...................

Name: Job Povey
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Melpes

Civil parish: Ashton Under Lyne
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England



Registration district: Ashton Under Lyne
Sub-registration district: Audenshaw
ED, institution, or vessel: 2f
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 203
Household Members: Name Age
Job Povey 31
Ellen Povey 22
Aaron Nifton 39

I know... the only Daniel Driver death i found was in March 1863 (5 mths before she married Job) and he was an Excavator who was run over by a Railway Waggon in Manchester! I dont believe this is right cos my Daniel was an Ag. Lab. in Somerset.

1871 for you..........

Name: Job Coney
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Job
Mother's Name: Harriet
Gender: Male
Where born: Hollingworth, Cheshire, England
Civil parish: Padfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Whitfield
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Registration district: Hayfield
Sub-registration district: Glossop
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Household schedule number: 81
Household Members: Name Age
Job Coney 42
Harriet Coney 41
Edward Deiner 15
Lydia Deiner 14
Job Deiner 14
Mary Deiner 10
Elizabeth Deiner 7
William Coney 5
Job Coney 1
Martha Coney 1

Yes, he was a widower in 1863 so this entry in 1861 with first wife Ellen would fit nicely thanks.

Thanks just found a marriage Mar 1860 Job Povey with Ellen Smith in Ashton.