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Thomas Bragginton 1782 born Evenlode convict

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LadyKira

LadyKira Report 27 Jul 2009 10:09

1819 admitted to Gloucester prison farm labourer aged 24. Sentenced in August of that year and deported for life on the ship Neptune 1 to New South Wales in Australia.

BRAGGINTON, Thomas. Per "Neptune", 1820

http://colsec.records.nsw.gov.au/indexes/colsec/b/F06c_br-bri-05.htm
1820 Jul 28
On list of convicts disembarked from the "Neptune" & forwarded to Upper Minto for distribution (Reel 6007; 4/3502 p.158)

The Neptune I arrived in Sydney Harbour on 17 July 1820 with 156 convicts on board after 114 days.

He left behind a wife and yong children. Can anyone tell me what became of him?

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 27 Jul 2009 10:11

I may not get back to this until tonight as I am visiting Evenlode today.

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 27 Jul 2009 13:38

You title states that he was born 1782, but your openning sentence puts his birth about 1795 ???

Found this, though his age is 'off'
But ... who gave his age ? ? ?

searched deaths for the last name BRAGGINTON in the years 1820 to 1900

Death...
Reg.No./Year .. 5767/1858
Name .. BRAGGINTON THOMAS
AGE 80 YEARS DIED WINDSOR
District .. WINDSOR

Australian death certificates usually have a lot of extra info. Not sure about theses very early ones though.

Also, the amount of info would depend on the informants knowledge.

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 27 Jul 2009 13:59

I have checked for any further info on any Bragginton in Australia and can not find anyone !!

There was a Frederick and fanny having children in the 1880's but they moved to New Zealand

I checked the electoral roll... Not ONE is listed ! !
I can not check in South Australia, so maybe some in there.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 27 Jul 2009 14:02

THOMAS BRAGGINGTON Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 06 APR 1844 Evenlode, Gloucester, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: SAMUEL BRAGGINGTON Family
Mother: MARY

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 27 Jul 2009 14:03

THOS BRAGINGTON Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 06 JUL 1782 Evenlode, Gloucester, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: JOSEPH BRAGINGTON Family
Mother: MARY

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 27 Jul 2009 14:04

1881

Thomas BRAGINGTON Head M Male 35 Evenlode, Worcester, England Farm Labr
Emily E. BRAGINGTON Wife M Female 30 Lichfield, Stafford, England
Thomas J. BRAGINGTON Son Male 7 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Rosa BRAGINGTON Daur Female 5 Erdington, Warwick, England Scholar
Herbert BRAGINGTON Son Male 3 Erdington, Warwick, England
Sarah L. BRAGINGTON Daur Female 1 Perry Barr, Stafford, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling Moor End Green
Census Place Aston, Warwick, England
Family History Library Film 1341728
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3047 / 40
Page Number 33

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 27 Jul 2009 14:04

1881

Thomas BRAGINGTON Head M Male 35 Evenlode, Worcester, England Farm Labr
Emily E. BRAGINGTON Wife M Female 30 Lichfield, Stafford, England
Thomas J. BRAGINGTON Son Male 7 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Rosa BRAGINGTON Daur Female 5 Erdington, Warwick, England Scholar
Herbert BRAGINGTON Son Male 3 Erdington, Warwick, England
Sarah L. BRAGINGTON Daur Female 1 Perry Barr, Stafford, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling Moor End Green
Census Place Aston, Warwick, England
Family History Library Film 1341728
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3047 / 40
Page Number 33

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 27 Jul 2009 14:04

1881

Eli BRAGINTON Head M Male 28 Evenlode, Worcester, England Carpenter
Emma BRAGINTON Wife M Female 27 Little Compton, Gloucester, England Dressmaker
Thomas H. BRAGINTON Son Male 3 Evenlode, Worcester, England
Rubin W. BRAGINTON Son Male 1 Evenlode, Worcester, England
Annie E. BRAGINTON Daur Female 1 m Evenlode, Worcester, England


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Source Information:
Census Place Evenlode, Worcester, England
Family History Library Film 1341618
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2563 / 70
Page Number 11

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 27 Jul 2009 14:06

JOSEPH BRAGGINTON Pedigree
Male Family


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Marriages:
Spouse: MARY PRICE Family
Marriage: 22 SEP 1777 Evenlode, Gloucester, England



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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

M025423 1754 - 1885 0991293 Film NONE


Sheet: 00


AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 27 Jul 2009 14:06

JOSEPH BRAGGINTON Pedigree
Male Family


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Marriages:
Spouse: ELIZABETH PERCOCKS Family
Marriage: 06 JUL 1766 Evenlode, Gloucester, England


LadyKira

LadyKira Report 27 Jul 2009 15:20

Thanjs to all who have added so far. I have the family details but have just found out he was deported. He was christened 06/07/1782 at Evenlode.


"1819 admitted to Gloucester prison farm labourer aged 24. Sentenced in August of that year and deported for life on the ship Neptune 1 to New South Wales in Australia"

comes from a local book called Glimpses of Evenlode giving the story of the families in the village and how things like Enclosure affected the people.

It is a tiny village and my family were the uneducated labourers.

I am unable to find the death of Hester Braginton his wife or find out how she managed with three young children. Their was no workhouse.

Is Windsor in Australia Julie? Does that mean he made it as I understand conditions on that ship were not great.

Braginton is one of the worse names fo mistranscription I have ever come across

Examples include Bragenton Brag Brock Brockington Bragman Brackinton Bragynton and Bryanston.

His daughter also went to Australia presumably to look for him.

Sarah arrived by the ship "Lord William Bentnick in 1844, as she could read and paid 18pounds 4s for fare and was going to work in Melbourne,Victoria Australia for a
Mr James Montgomery for 12pounds a year with rations,she only stayed 3months and was next found on the Schooner "Hawk" bound for Adelaide South Australia.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 27 Jul 2009 22:02

I have returned after a frustrating trip. Stow in the Wold library was shut, Gloucester archives 50 miles away was shut and I have to return home tomorrow. Evenlode sits on the borders of four counties and there are records in each.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 27 Jul 2009 23:35

Is there any awake from Australia yet?

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 28 Jul 2009 02:52

Hi from Australia. Nearly midday here, late starting today.

RE the death info I found, Windsor is on the outskirts of Sydney, NSW

If Sarah came to find her father, she was looking in all the wrong states.

I will have another look for info. using the other surnames which you supplied.
As yet I have not even been able to find his transcription records.


EDIT... I have checked out all other variations of the name and no luck.
There was 2 deaths of a Thomas BRAGG, but I do not think either is your man

V1840909 24A/1840 BRAGG THOMAS AGE 55
V1851660 37B/1851 BRAGG THOMAS AGE 47

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 28 Jul 2009 03:06

Found this one ????

Australian Convict Transportation Registers – Other Fleets & Ships, 1791-1868 about Thomas Brassington
Name: Thomas Brassington
Vessel: Neptune
Convicted Date: 21 Aug 1819
Voyage Date: Mar 1820
Piece: HO 11/3
Place of Conviction: Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England

His name was } together with 5 others, All convicted at Gloucester Alsizes on the 21st Aug 1819

The other names were John Newman ; Isaac Ballard ; Joseph Parker ; William Bryant & Thomas Vine.
If you can find court info. for the day, these names may help deciding if this is your man.

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 28 Jul 2009 03:13

Possibly NOT yours.

Found the following, dated 31st Dec 1836, for a "Conditional" Pardon and the transportation ship is listed as Neptune 3

New South Wales and Tasmania, Australia, Convict Pardons and Tickets of Leave, 1834-1859 about Thomas Brassington
Name: Thomas Brassington
Arrival Year: 1820
Vessel: Neptune
Fleet: Second
Piece: HO 10/31
Province: New South Wales
Title: Pardons (also TASMANIA)
Year(s): 1834-1838

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 28 Jul 2009 03:21

Yahoo ! !
age is a bit out, but at least it's the correct name....

New South Wales and Tasmania, Australia Convict Musters, 1806-1849 about Thomas Braggington
Name: Thomas Braggington
Arrival Date: 1820
Vessel: Neptune
Fleet: Second
Piece: HO 10/32
Province: New South Wales
Title: General muster A-C
Year(s): 1837
Place of Conviction: Gloucester
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1763

Rats ! !
The original definitely has his age at 57, no error there.
Unless the error was back in 1820 and originally recorded wrong.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 28 Jul 2009 07:37

It is certainly not a common name and he was the only one in Evenlode.
The book cites the Evenlode papers as its source hence my unsucessful trip to Gloucester. It would be a remarkable coincidence if two Thomas Braggintons of different ages were deported on the same ship at the same time. Unfortunately the book was written from a local history point of view not a family history point of view.

Ann correctly identified his baptism and he was married by license 1804
His children were born between 1812 and 1817. From my understanding the village had a very clearly defined system of "haves" and "have nots".
Mine were definitly the have nots.


Thank you so much for searching for me Julie.

AuntySherlock

AuntySherlock Report 28 Jul 2009 09:10

Hi Christine, Sarah Bragginton came to Australia


Assisted immigrants arriving at Port Phillip, 1839-51
Surname Firstname Age Events Vessel Year Reel RecordItem Page Remarks Order
BRAGGINGTON Sarah Lord William Bentinck 1844 2144 4/4815 89

This states she came as an assisted immigrant (the gove paid her passage). She landed at Port Phillip Bay which is in Melbourne Victoria in 1844. The ship she sailed on was the Lord William Bentinck.

You are able to order a copy of the document. Not certain yet what it looks like. Will find out.