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Thomas Bragginton 1782 born Evenlode convict

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LadyKira

LadyKira Report 28 Jul 2009 09:40

I am in contact with a descendant Of Sarah. At first I thought she died after 1841 but found no trace. When I found she went to Australia I thought it strange that a young girl from the middle of nowhere would go all that way on her own. And she could read and write. The school did not open until 1841 although there was a school mistress in the village in the 1841 census.
It was not until this week that I got a clue as to what happened to Thomas and a possible reason for Sarah going. I do not think she would have realised just how vast Australia is.
It is my last day up here. Back to work tomorrow. I am going to Stow in the Wold library this morning to try to find the Evenlode papers. Then back to London. I have collected lots of pictures and got a feel for the area so not a wasted trip.

AuntySherlock

AuntySherlock Report 28 Jul 2009 09:54

As Julie said these are the birthsfor children of Frederick and Fanny in NSW in the 1880s. Worth keeping in mind because the name is not that common.


2049/1882 BRAGGINTON SYDNEY H FREDERICK C FANNY M SYDNEY Buy Now
2195/1885 BRAGGINTON MATILDA A J FREDERICK C FANNY M SYDNEY Buy Now
1835/1888 BRAGGINTON LILIAN M FREDERICK C FANNY M SYDNEY Buy

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 28 Jul 2009 10:57

Have added the New Zealand birth, which was prior to the Australian births.
No marriage found though.

Do not know what happened to the family after the births though ??

Year/Reg.No....1878/5362
Name .. Bragginton Albert John
Mother .. Fanny Matilda
Father .. Frederick Charles

AuntySherlock

AuntySherlock Report 28 Jul 2009 12:39

Christine you need to do some serious sorting. The dates of birth, ages given at his conviction and dates and ages of death do not add up.

If we are looking at someone who was 24 in 1819 his date of birth would be 1795.

If he was christened in 1782 he would have been about 37 in 1819.

If he was born in 1795 his age at death in 1858 would be 63. You can't mistake an 80 year old for 63.

If he arrived in Aust in 1820 and died in 1858 in Australia the 1881 census data can not be him. That would have to be his grandchildren's information. That Thomas Bragginton would have been born in c1846.


I can find no evidence that he received a conditional pardon. I am not certain Thomas Brassington is the same person. He came to Aust on a different ship and in a different month. (His ship I think was Neptune 3, your TBs was Neptune 1) If you would like to take that search further try this site. An awful lot of the info is only available for looking at in the reading room.

http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/

Look at the online indexes/historical records.

I have already searched and apart from finding his name as coming to Australia in 1820 have drawn a blank.

I have asked Kerri on the Records Office board to do a search of South Australian records. That should give us the fate of Sarah and whether Thomas joined her.
Do you know that Sarah was your Thomas's daughter. I immediately assumed she was his wife.

How much of the info on the thread fits into what you know about the family. Give us a summary so we know which track to follow.

I am going to search WA and QLD records for any evidence of the family between 1820 and 1858
OK Nothing shows in West Aust or Queensland for the family.



AuntySherlock

AuntySherlock Report 28 Jul 2009 13:32

Just had a look on Ancestry at the original transportation register for 1818-1820. Thomas Brassington come up. On the original his name looks like it is spelt Bragington. In that old fashioned lettering where the "s" looks like an "f" or a "g". The handwriting is beautifully clear. Makes me wonder if this is the correct Thomas after all.

AuntySherlock

AuntySherlock Report 28 Jul 2009 14:27

Whooo hooo! Lookee what Kerri has found. Sarah Braginton went to South Australia. Here is her info. Well done Kerri and thank you.

Groom: BALCHIN
Given names: James
Bride: BRAGINTON
Given names: Sarah
Date: 1849-01-22
Groom Age: 36
Status: S
Groom's Father: [unrecorded]
Bride Age: 27
Status: S
Bride's Father: [unrecorded]
Place: Holy Trinity Church Adelaide
District: Ade
Symbol:
Book/Page: 3/16
Cross Reference:

Surname: BALCHIN
Given Names: Charlotte
Date: 1862-03-24
Sex: F
Father: James BALCHIN
Mother: Sarah BRAGINGTON
Birth Place/Residence: Eyres Flat
District Code: MoV
Symbol:
Book: 24
Page: 504
Cross Reference:

Possible mistranscription???
Surname: BOLTON
Given Names: Elizabeth
Date: 1849-06-04
Sex: M
Father: James BOLTON
Mother: Sarah BRAGINTON
Birth Place/Residence: Morphett Vale
District Code: Ade
Symbol: E
Book: 2
Page: 152
Cross Reference:

Note-symbol E means probable error but not corrected....dont know if this concerns Sex as Male or surname different-or both.

Possible arrival of Sarah.....
Sarah Bragantine, arrived in South Australia 20th December 1844 from Port Phillip, Victoria aboard the schooner HAWK

Surname: BALCHIN
Given Names: Sarah
Date: 1907-04-15
Sex: F
Age: 87y
Status: W
Relative: James BALCHIN (DH)
Relative 2:
Residence: Murray Bridge
Death Place: Murray Bridge
District Code: Nai
Symbol:
Book: 324
Page: 383
Cross Reference:

Cheers
Kerri

AuntySherlock

AuntySherlock Report 28 Jul 2009 21:43

Not sure what to think of this death notice in SA newspaper but I think that this is Sarah's...

The Advertiser; Thursday 25 April 1907
BALCHIN.-On the 13th April, at her daugh-
ter's residence, Murray Bridge, Sarah Matthews,
relict of the late James Balchin. Kangarilla, in her
88th year, leaving 2 sons. 5 daughters, 47 grand
children, 28 great-grandchildren. A colonist of 65
years. At rest. Melbourne papers please copy.

Went looking again for missing children but no more came up.Perhaps they were not registered. A few marriages later with father as James Balchin- so with some work they could be found.

Sounds like some family were living in Victoria-"Melbourne papers please copy"

AuntySherlock

AuntySherlock Report 28 Jul 2009 22:29

Just put Balchin in the Victorian BDM historical search. Came up with 103 matches or 6 pages. Here is the web site. It will cost a couple of pounds for you to look at the pages. It is not expensive.

https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search?action=getHistIdxSearchCriteria

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 29 Jul 2009 00:29

Wow thanks everyone.

I had no luck at Stow in the Wold today.
The librarians were unfriendly and did not know where there own things were. The fiche drawer was unlabelled and useless.
I am going to have to enquire at Gloucester archives on line. I did get to visit Aston blank today which is where Hester was born.

Back to Thomas

I have the date of his christening and have put his Dob as approximately 06/07/1782.

"1819 admitted to Gloucester prison farm labourer aged 24. Sentenced in August of that year and deported for life on the ship Neptune ! to New South Wales in Australia." comes from the book

Perhaps the author of the book misread the records? I have been given his phone number .

I can see that Bragginton becomes Brassington by someone readind the records as opposed to hearing the name and writing it down. Brassington is also a name in use though.

This is the census info for Thomas son Samuel
Samuel first married Deborah unknown then Mary Gregory

1841 Address: Horne House, Evenlode
1411 BRAG, Saml M 29 Worcestershire
1411 BRAG, Mary F 29 Worcestershire
1411 BRAG, Robt M 8 Worcestershire
1411 BRAG, Charles M 6 Worcestershire
1411 BRAG, Rebecca F 3
1411 BRAG, Georgiena F 1

1851 Stow on the Wold census
131 sheep street
BRAGINTON Samuel 44 Labourer Evenlode
Mary 40 Evenlode
Robert 18 Labourer Evenlode
Charles 15 Labourer Evenlode
Georgiana 10 Scholar Evenlode
Josiah 9 Scholar Evenlode
Thomas 6 Scholar Evenlode
Sarah 4 Scholar Evenlode
John 3 Scholar Evenlode

1861 age 49 ag lab
1861 Address: Parsonage, Evenlode
BRAGGINTON, Samuel Head Married M 49 Ag Lab
Evenlode
Worcestershire
BRAGGINTON, Mary Ann Wife Married F 49
Evenlode
Worcestershire
BRAGGINTON, Thomas Son Unmarried M 17 Ag Lab
Evenlode
Worcestershire
BRAGGINTON, Sarah Daughter Unmarried F 15 Scholar
Evenlode
Worcestershire
BRAGGINTON, John Son M 13 Agricultural Labourer
Evenlode
Worcestershire
BRAGGINTON, Caroline Daughter F 6 Scholar
Evenlode
Worcestershire
BRAGGINTON, Simieon Son M 4 Scholar
Evenlode
Worcestershire

1871 Address: Cottage, Evenlode
BRAGINTON, Samuel Head M 60 Worcestershire
BRAGINTON, Sarah Daughter F 24 Worcestershire
BRAGINTON, John Son M 22 Worcestershire

Mary is with daughter Georgiana in Rotherhithe with her newborn baby.

Samuel has a sister Sarah already mentioned and 2 brothers Richard one who dies in infancy and this one

1841 Address: Bridge, Brailes
BRAGGANTON, Richard M 20 1821
BRAGGANTON, Jemima F 25 1816 Warwickshire
REED, Henry M 6 1835
REED, Frederick M 4 1837

1851 age 32 ag lab Evenlode
1861 age 45 ag lab Evenlode
transcribed as Bryanston wife Frances( Jemima) and visitor Chandle but should be Randall on Findmypast (I know who these are)
1861 Address: Evenlode
BRYANSTON, Richard Head Married M 43 1818 Ag Lab
Evenlode
Worcestershire
BRYANSTON, Frances Wife Married F 47 1814
Evenlode
Worcestershire
BRYANSTON, Mary Ann Daughter F 12 1849 Scholar
Evenlode
Worcestershire
BRYANSTON, Caleb Son M 10 1851 Agricultural Labourer
Evenlode
Worcestershire
BRYANSTON, Ele Son M 8 1853 Scholar
Evenlode
Worcestershire
BRYANSTON, William Son M 6 1855 Scholar
Evenlode
Worcestershire
CHANDLE, Frank Visitor M 5 1856 Scholar
Welford
Worcestershire



1871 Address: Cottage, Evenlode
BRAGINTON, Richard Head M 54 Worcestershire
BRAGINTON, Jemima Wife F 58 Warwickshire
BRAGINTON, Elizabeth Daughter F 26 Worcestershire
BRAGINTON, Mary Ann Daughter F 22 Worcestershire

1881 Evenlode
BRAGGINGTON, Richard Head Married M 61 1820 Labourer
Evenlode
Worcestershire
BRAGGINGTON, Jemmia Wife Married F 68 1813 Wife
Staunton
Warwickshire
BRAGGINGTON, Mary A Daughter Single F 25 1856
Evenlode
Worcestershire


1891 widower age 73 ag lab living with daughter Julia Jacques and husband
Address: Village, Evenlode
JACQUES, James Head Married M 46 1845 Agricultural Labourer
Evenlode
Worcestershire
JACQUES, Julia Wife Married F 40 1851
Evenlode
Worcestershire
BRAGMAN, Richard Father In Law Widower M 73 1818 Formerly Agricultural Labourer
Evenlode
Worcestershire

Brailles is another small village close to where Jemima was born


This is definitely thenot correct Sarah as we now know my Sarah was not the one in Australia but I will pass it on.
The Advertiser; Thursday 25 April 1907
BALCHIN.-On the 13th April, at her daugh-
ter's residence, Murray Bridge, Sarah Matthews,
relict of the late James Balchin. Kangarilla, in her
88th year, leaving 2 sons. 5 daughters, 47 grand
children, 28 great-grandchildren. A colonist of 65
years. At rest. Melbourne papers please copy

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 29 Jul 2009 00:30

This one is Samuel's son

1851 Stow on the Wold census
131
BRAGINTON Samuel 44 Labourer Evenlode
Mary 40 Evenlode
Robert 18 Labourer Evenlode
Charles 15 Labourer Evenlode
Georgiana 10 Scholar Evenlode
Josiah 9 Scholar Evenlode
Thomas 6 Scholar Evenlode
Sarah 4 Scholar Evenlode
John 3 Scholar Evenlode

1861 Address: Parsonage, Evenlode
BRAGGINTON, Samuel Head Married M 49 1812 Ag Lab
Evenlode
Worcestershire
BRAGGINTON, Mary Ann Wife Married F 49 1812
Evenlode
Worcestershire
BRAGGINTON, Thomas Son Unmarried M 17 1844 Ag Lab
Evenlode
Worcestershire
BRAGGINTON, Sarah Daughter Unmarried F 15 1846 Scholar
Evenlode
Worcestershire
BRAGGINTON, John Son M 13 1848 Agricultural Labourer
Evenlode
Worcestershire
BRAGGINTON, Caroline Daughter F 6 1855 Scholar
Evenlode
Worcestershire
BRAGGINTON, Simieon Son M 4 1857 Scholar
Evenlode
Worcestershire

1871 Address: New Street (Osbourn Buildings), Aston
BRAGINGTON, Thomas Head M 26 1845 Worcestershire
BRAGINGTON, Emily E Wife F 20 1851 Staffordshire

1881 Address: Moor End Green, Aston
BRAGINGTON, Thomas Head Married M 35 1846 Farm Labr
Evenlode
Worcestershire
BRAGINGTON, Emily E Wife Married F 30 1851
Lichfield
Staffordshire
BRAGINGTON, Thomas J Son Single M 7 1874 Scholar
Bham
Warwickshire
BRAGINGTON, Rosa Daughter Single F 5 1876 Scholar
Erdington
Warwickshire
BRAGINGTON, Herbert Son Single M 3 1878
Erdington
Warwickshire
BRAGINGTON, Sarah L Daughter Single F 1 1880
Perry Barr
Staffordshire

1891 Address: 1, The Firs, Moor End Lane, Aston, Erdington
BRAGINGTON, Thomas Head Married M 45 Carter
Evenlode
Worcestershire
BRAGINGTON, Emily Wife Married F 40
Lichfield
Staffordshire
BRAGINGTON, Thomas J Son Single M 17 Warehouseman
Nechells
Warwickshire
BRAGINGTON, Herbert Son Single M 13 Errand Boy
Erdington
Warwickshire
BRAGINGTON, Sarah Daughter F 11 Scholar
Perry Barr
Staffordshire
BRAGINGTON, Emily Daughter F 8 Scholar
Erdington
Warwickshire
BRAGINGTON, William G Son M 7 Scholar
Erdington
Warwickshire
BRAGINGTON, Elsie Daughter F 5 Scholar
Erdington
Warwickshire
BRAGINGTON, Simeon Son M 2
Erdington
Warwickshire

1901 Address: 27, Moor End Lane, Erdington
BRAGGINGTON, Thomas Head Widower M 55 1846 Drainer
Evenlode
Gloucestershire VIEW
BRAGGINGTON, Rosa Daughter Single F 25 1876
Erdington
Warwickshire VIEW
BRAGGINGTON, Herbert Son Single M 23 1878 Carter
Erdington
Warwickshire VIEW
BRAGGINGTON, Emily Daughter Single F 19 1882
Erdington
Warwickshire VIEW
BRAGGINGTON, William Son Single M 17 1884 Clerk
Erdington
Warwickshire VIEW
BRAGGINGTON, Elsie Daughter Single F 15 1886
Erdington
Warwickshire VIEW
BRAGGINGTON, Simeon Son M 12 1889
Erdington
Warwickshire VIEW
BRAGGINGTON, Bernard Son M 9 1892
Erdington
Warwickshire

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 29 Jul 2009 00:37

this is what is on family search

Thomas Braggington Pedigree
Male Family


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Event(s):
Birth: About 1779 Of Wenlode, , Worcester, England

Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Marriages:
Spouse: Hester Collett Family
License: 28 OCT 1804 Aston Blank, Gloucester, England

License: 28 OCT 1804 Aston Blank, Gloucester, England



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Messages:
Record submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The record often shows the name of the individual and his or her relationship to a descendant, shown as the heir, family representative, or relative. The original records are not indexed, and you may have to look at the film frame-by-frame to find the information you want. A family group record for this couple may be in the Family Group Record Collection; Archive Section. (See the Family History Library Catalog for the film number.) These records are alphabetical by name of the father or husband.


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Source Information:
Film Number: 458041
Page Number:
Reference number:

THOS BRAGINGTON Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 06 JUL 1782 Evenlode, Gloucester, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: JOSEPH BRAGINGTON Family
Mother: MARY

THOMAS BRAGGINGTON Pedigree
Male Family


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Marriages:
Spouse: HESTER COLLETT Family
Marriage: 28 OCT 1804 Aston Blank, Gloucester, England



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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

M026782

Kerri

Kerri Report 29 Jul 2009 01:15


1. Thomas BRAGINGTON chr abt 17 Jan 1796 Ashburton, Devon, England s/o William BRAGINGTON/Elizabeth [IGI Batch C050201 extracted from parish records]
Poss Thomas Mathew BRAGINTON m 14 Mar 1820 Saint Olave, Exeter, Devon England, Elizabeth TICKELL [IGI Batch M050491 extracted from parish records]

Who is this Sarah BRAGINTON who was born in Cornwall abt 1822 and emigrated to Australia in 1844?
Her marriage in 1849 in South Australia to James BALCHIN was witnessed by John and Elizabeth SCOWN.
Further evidence of a family connection is the fact that her death notice in the Adelaide Chronicle in 1907 gave her name as Sarah Matthews BALCHIN.
Perhaps she was a child of Thomas BRAGINGTON and therefore a niece of Susanna Dinnis.
Or ... if Sarah was a child of Susanna born out of wedlock this could explain why Susanna did not marry until she was 36 years of age.

John BALCHIN m 1848 Sarah BRAGINTON
2. Susanna Dinnis BRAGINGTON chr 2 Sep 1798 Ashburton, Devon, England d/o William BRAGINGTON/Elizabeth [IGI Batch C050201 extracted from parish records]
Susan SCOWN d 25 Mar 1878 aged 89 yrs Deep Lead, Shire of Stawell, Victoria, Australia d/o William BRAGENTON, Soldier, and Elizabeth ms MATTHEWS [Vic Index 3966]
Susanna Dinnis BRAGINTON m 7 Oct 1832 St Mary Magdalene, Launceston, Cornwall, John SCOWN [entry no 306]
John and Susannah SCOWN and their two daughters Elizabeth Jane and Mary Ann arrived in Adelaide, South Australia on 13 Dec 1840 aboard the Royal Admiral. Four years later they were joined in South Australia by 22 yr-old Sarah BRAGINTON and witnessed her marriage in 1849. The connection is not yet known.


John SCOWN m 1832 Susanna Dinnis BRAGINTON
3. Elizabeth BRAGINGTON chr 1 Mar 1801 Ashburton, Devon, England d/o William BRAGINGTON/Elizabeth [IGI Batch C050201 extracted from parish records]

4. Sarah BRAGINGTON chr 27 Feb 1803 Ashburton, Devon, England d/o William BRAGINGTON/Elizabeth [IGI Batch C050201 extracted from parish records]
Sarah BRAGINGTON d 11 Jan 1818 (aged abt 15 yrs) Ashburton, Devon, England d/o William BRAGINGTON/Elizabeth [IGI Batch C050201 extracted from parish records]

5. William BRAGINGTON chr 4 May 1806 Ashburton, Devon, England s/o William BRAGINGTON/Elizabeth [IGI Batch C050201 extracted from parish records]

http://users.ncable.net.au/~jburrell/gen/scown/bal_bra2.html

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 29 Jul 2009 01:53

Well that puts the cat amonst the pigeons. I was contacted by someone convinced her Sarah was the one born Evenlode. I had presumed but not confirmed her dead by 1841. I had not found her in 1841 although she had not departed for Australia. A death would confirm she is not the Evenlode one. I think there are connections to the Devon Braggintons but I am not convinced that some of the trees out there are correct.


So Sarah was not looking for her father,
In fact I think now it is highly likely she died as she is not in 1841 census.

A relative of the Sarah that married Balchin had contacted us saying she was born Evenlode but it seems she was mistaken so I have removed the Balchins from my tree.

So just Thomas,

I asked to meet up with the author of the book this week but he made it clear he was busy.I need to know his sources.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 29 Jul 2009 02:08


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SARAH BRAGGINTON Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 12 JUN 1814 Evenlode, Gloucester, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: THOMAS BRAGGINTON Family
Mother: ESTHER


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C025423 1737 - 1875 0991293 Film 6901084 Film


Sheet: 00

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 29 Jul 2009 14:50

International Genealogical Index - British Isles
1. Thomas Braggington - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Birth: About 1779 Of Wenlode, , Worcester, England

2. THOS BRAGINGTON - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 06 JUL 1782 Evenlode, Gloucester, England


This is my Thomas Bragginton at Evenlode

Julies death fits in with this one

Death...
Reg.No./Year .. 5767/1858
Name .. BRAGGINTON THOMAS
AGE 80 YEARS DIED WINDSOR
District .. WINDSOR

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 29 Jul 2009 15:04

THOMAS BRAGGINGTON Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 06 APR 1844 Evenlode, Gloucester, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: SAMUEL BRAGGINGTON Family
Mother: MARY

1881

Thomas BRAGINGTON Head M Male 35 Evenlode, Worcester, England Farm Labr
Emily E. BRAGINGTON Wife M Female 30 Lichfield, Stafford, England
Thomas J. BRAGINGTON Son Male 7 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Rosa BRAGINGTON Daur Female 5 Erdington, Warwick, England Scholar
Herbert BRAGINGTON Son Male 3 Erdington, Warwick, England
Sarah L. BRAGINGTON Daur Female 1 Perry Barr, Stafford, England

This Thomas is the grandson of convict Thomas and son of Samuel.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 29 Jul 2009 15:34

1819 admitted to Gloucester prison farm labourer aged 24. Sentenced in August of that year and deported for life on the ship Neptune 1 to New South Wales in Australia

This info comes from the book about Evenlode.
His age is wrong but there are no other Thomas braggintons in Evenlode at the time.


Thomas's father was Joseph Bragginton
born c1750
ELIZABETH PERCOCKS Family
Marriage: 06 JUL 1766 Evenlode, Gloucester, England

Marriages:
Spouse: MARY PRICE Family
Marriage: 22 SEP 1777 Evenlode, Gloucester, England

All his siblings were girls