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Any help please. ... Nicholas Powell.
gggrandfather from Ireland not known where. born about 1815-17. Married an Elizabeth Sheldon from bilston staffs.Then moved to Whitwood castleford west yorks.Died there in 1887.How can i find out where he came from.???
His father was james powell again born ireland . dont know where or when.

Have you found him on census records? Is his birth place always just listed as Ireland?

If you give his name here then there is a chance that someone will be able to help.

sorry have added name
nicholas powell only ever listed as from ireland

Nicholas Powell Pedigree
Male Family
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Parents:
Father: James Powell Family


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Marriages:
Spouse: Elizabeth Sheldon Family
Marriage: 05 APR 1847 Rowley- Regis, , Stafford, England

Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.

thanx
that looks like a very good possibility

thank you very much mel
thats them
now how do i find out where they came from in ireland?
any ideas much appreciated

Have you been able to establish when he was born ? Is it still approximately 1815-1817 ? When I looked into my Irish roots I found quite a bit very easily but I knew where they were from. The census and records I looked at were through the county library and were completely free to view.
By no means an expert on these things but do passenger lists exist for travelling to Uk from Eire ?? He must have been quite young when he left. Not sure from the info on the thread how you know his father's name .Is it from the marriage cert? Is he on English census 1841 ?
Am going to do a bit of googling and will come back if I get anywhere
Vanessa

hi have you tried brsgenealogy it is a good site for irish ancestors .not all counties on yet but hopefully will be eventualy .good luck keith

hi
sorry but as in thread
thats all the info i have no idea where to look
i have been told that no passenger lists exist because they were classed as ferries and some came over on any kind boat they could find.
thank you keith will try brs gene-
thanx again folks

hi you know where and when he died .local paper (copies usually in that local library ) are worth a look .my gggrandfather was born in ireland in 1837 .found out when and where he died .looked through local paper for area he died in (obituary section) to my surprise i found his obituary and got lots of info said where he was born in ireland ect.. time consuming but worth a try ..regards keith

thanx keith
good idea will give it a try
can u search news papers online ,as i dont live in the area?
cheers

sorry cant help you but love the name Plonker lol

start off with getting the marriage certificate as it should have his father's occupation on it, may give a clue as to where they came from e.g Bristish Army!

different age

1871

Name: Nicholas Powell
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Civil parish: Whitwood
Ecclesiastical parish: Whitwood
Town: Whitwood
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Pontefract
Sub-registration district: Castleford
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 216
Household Members: Name Age
Nicholas Powell 46
Elizabeth Powell 55
Frances Powell 22
John Powell 20




June x

maybe a different age but i think its the same family
i think ages were a guessing game back then.
cheers

For ref:

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Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Nicholas POWELL Head M Male 64 Ireland Coal Miner
Elizabeth POWELL Wife M Female 72 Dudley, Stafford, England
Thomas MATHERS Boarder M Male 57 Dublin, Ireland Coal Miner


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Source Information:
Dwelling The Square
Census Place Whitwood, York, England
Family History Library Film 1342108
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4591 / 87
Page Number 16

this is probably Nichlolas' son..living same place...

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Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Thomas POWELL Head M Male 45 Tunstall, Stafford, England Coal Miner
Mary POWELL Wife M Female 40 Tunstall, Stafford, England
Mary A. POWELL Daur U Female 18 Tunstall, Stafford, England
Thomas POWELL Son Male 13 Tunstall, Stafford, England Scholar
Martin POWELL Son Male 7 Tunstall, Stafford, England Scholar


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Source Information:
Dwelling The Square
Census Place Whitwood, York, England
Family History Library Film 1342108
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4591 / 87
Page Number 15

This could be Nicholas on 1861 - working away from home?

1861 England Census
about Nicholas Powell
Name: Nicholas Powell
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland

Civil parish: Clay Lane
Ecclesiastical parish: Claycross
Town: Clay Cross
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England


Registration district: Chesterfield
Sub-registration district: Ashover
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 13
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Concannon 36
Mary Concannon 30
Thomas Concannon 5
Margaret Concannon 3
John Concannon 11 Mo
John Coutins 46
William Jackson 31
Martin Keating 45
Nicholas Powell 33 ....mar. Coal miner

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2525; Folio: 88; Page: 3; GSU roll: 542984.

Source Information:

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I wonder is this is Elizabeth + children in the workhouse? - John is the correct age and pob buut I haven't found Francis yet !

1861 England Census
about Elizabeth Powell
Name: Elizabeth Powell
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Female
Where born: Dudley, Worcestershire, England

Civil parish: West Bromwich
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England



Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub-registration district: West Bromwich North East
ED, institution, or vessel: West Bromwich Union Workhouse
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members: Name Age


Elizabeth Powell 46 Domestic Servant b Dudley, Worcs
John Powell 10 scholar b Oldbury, Worcs.
Ann Powell 2 scholar (bless!! - at school already and only 2 !) - b Oldbury, Worcs.

** Elizabeth is classed as 'inmate' -(I have deleted the 2-page long list of the other inmates !)



Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2031; Folio: 107; Page: 9; GSU roll: 542906

Dea x

Can't find Nicholas as yet on 1851 but this is Elizabeth with her parents, strangely listed as Sheldon.
I think this is probably a mistake as that marriage which was posted for 1847 looks good and Francis was registered as Powell

1851 England Census
about Elizabeth Sheldon
Name: Elizabeth Sheldon
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Francis
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Wednesbury, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Dudley
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Street Address:.............. Paradise .


Registration district: Dudley
Sub-registration district: Dudley
ED, institution, or vessel: 1m
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 155
Household Members: Name Age
Francis Sheldon 66 Coal Miner
Ann Sheldon 63
Elizabeth Sheldon 29 dau.
Francis Sheldon 3 grandson

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2032; Folio: 375; Page: 44; GSU roll: 87439.

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Births Mar 1848 (>99%) (includes Oldbury)
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POWELL Francis W Bromwich 18 579

Dea x

Still nothing is helping with the Irish connection but I believe this is 'your man' on 1841:

1841 England Census
about Nicholas Powel
Name: Nicholas Powel
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland

Civil parish: Wakefield
Hundred: Agbrigg (Lower Division)
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Wakefield
Sub-registration district: Stanley
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Norton 20
Nicholas Powel 15 Coal miner


Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 1271; Book: 7; Civil Parish: Wakefield; County: Yorkshire; Enumeration District: 2; Folio: 31; Page: 15; Line: 8; GSU roll: 464241.

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