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Darealjolo

Darealjolo Report 21 Oct 2009 22:07

I am trying to find a birth for my GT GT GT GT Grandad.

William Coulstock born 1837, there is only 2 matches and he isnt there. Born in Chiddingstone, Kent, husband of Jane Coulstock, dont know mmn.
I think they only had 1 child, William born 1862 and found i think the right birth but looks like he may have been a twin as there is a John Coulstock above him ref 2a 415 2nd qtr 1862. But at age 10 he is the only child so maybe i have gone wrong somewhere.

Can anyone help please?

Joanne

EVEIE

EVEIE Report 21 Oct 2009 22:12

is this his marriage
Name: William Coulstock
Year of Registration: 1866
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Reigate
County: Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 139
jane w gunner

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 21 Oct 2009 22:13

It was not compulsory to register births until 1875 so it simply might not have been registered

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 21 Oct 2009 22:14

The GRO didn't come into being until the latter part of 1837 - and there was no penalty for not registering a birth until 1875

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 21 Oct 2009 22:16

Is this the 1862 birth to which you refer?

Births Jun 1862 (>99%)
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COLGAYE Harry Sevenoaks 2a 415
COULSTOCK William Sevenoaks 2a 415 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
HOATH MINNA Flora Sevenoaks 2a 415
JENNER Mary Ann Sevenoaks 2a 415
JENNER Zilpah Sevenoaks 2a 415
MARCHANT Bradbury Sevenoaks 2a 415
SEAL Richard Henry Sevenoaks 2a 415
SMITH Agnes Russell Sevenoaks 2a 415
SMITH Charles Sevenoaks 2a 415
WHEATLEY Albert Sevenoaks 2a 415

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 21 Oct 2009 22:17

1871 just for info
Name: William Contstock
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Chiddingstone, Kent, England
Civil parish: Chiddingstone
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Sevenoaks
Sub-registration district: Penshurst
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 26
Household Members: Name Age
William Contstock 36
Jane Contstock 26 Hever, Kent
William Contstock 10 Penshurst, Kent
Annie Contstock 4
Jane Contstock 1
Edward Humphrey 22

Darealjolo

Darealjolo Report 21 Oct 2009 22:17

starr1 that looks good, maybe it is, Have to get cert i guess for next clue. Thankyou for finding this for me.

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 21 Oct 2009 22:19

I can't see on any census a William Coulstock born in 1837

please give us more details of your source(s)

Darealjolo

Darealjolo Report 21 Oct 2009 22:19

Freewheel,

Yes thats the birth and John's reference is 2a 416 same area, Sevenoaks.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 21 Oct 2009 22:20

Wonder if William is really the son of Jane before her marriage


Births Jun 1860 (>99%)
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GUNNER William Sevenoaks 2a 375


Penhurst is in this registration district

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 21 Oct 2009 22:20

Any child whose birth was registered in AMJ 1862 would be aged 8 (or 9 if the reg'n was late)in 1871 - NOT 10.

Darealjolo

Darealjolo Report 21 Oct 2009 22:22

Glitterbaby,

I was looking at 1971 census and didnt see this!!

Maybe i have wrong year then but thats how i calculated it.

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 21 Oct 2009 22:23

This is on a different page - what makes you think he is William's twin?

Births Jun 1862 (>99%)
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COULSTOCK John Sevenoaks 2a 416 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
ENGLISH John Sevenoaks 2a 416
HOATH George Sevenoaks 2a 416
LONGLEY John Sevenoaks 2a 416
ROFFEY Alice Matilda Sevenoaks 2a 416
SMITH Eliza Sevenoaks 2a 416
WELLS James Sevenoaks 2a 416
WELLS William Sevenoaks 2a 416

Darealjolo

Darealjolo Report 21 Oct 2009 22:26

Freewheel,

I got John and William on the same page here on Genes reunited in 1862 2a 415 and 2a 416 both in Sevenoaks.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 21 Oct 2009 22:29

1881 just for info

Name: Jane Coulstock
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Step Daughter
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Female
Where born: Chiddingstone, Kent, England

Civil parish: Chiddingstone
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address: 50 Hill Hoath
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Sevenoaks
Sub-registration district: Penshurst
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William G. Devenport 30
Jane Devenport 35
Jane Coulstock 11
Elizabeth Coulstock 8
William H. Devenport 3
Roland G. Devenport

Darealjolo

Darealjolo Report 21 Oct 2009 22:30

Please dont delete any replies with info on as i have to go now so cant jot down but will be back first thing tomorrow.

Thankyou

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 21 Oct 2009 22:32

GR's pages are not relevant

The ONLY page number which matters is the one on the GRO index.

In this case, one of the births is on Page 415 - the other is on Page 416

And both are too late to refer to a child whose age on the 1871 census is recorded as 10 years.

Darealjolo

Darealjolo Report 22 Oct 2009 07:50

Freewheel,

Do i have the wrong William Coulstock then do you think?

Thankyou all for helping me.

Joanne

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 22 Oct 2009 09:48

This looks like your William in 1861



1861 England Census
about William Cowlstoch
Name: William Cowlstoch
Age: 7 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Penshurst, Kent, England

Civil parish: Chiddingstone
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Sevenoaks
Sub-registration district: Penshurst
ED, institution, or vessel: 5c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 115
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Huntly 43
Eliza Huntly 42
Henry Huntly 13
Eliza Huntly 11
Mary A Huntly 8
William Huntly 5
Charles Huntly 3
William Cowlstoch 7 Mo



Marriages Mar 1845 (>99%)

Coulstock Eliza Sevenoaks 5 469
Huntley Henry Sevenoaks 5 469

This is probably his birth reg

Births Dec 1860 (>99%)

COWLSTOCK William Sevenoaks 2a __

I have checked the image on ancestry and the page and vol no are
2a 375.

This could be his father in 1861 as he is a widowed, birth year in 1871 is 1835.

1861 England Census
about William Coulstock
Name: William Coulstock
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Chiddingstone, Kent, England

Civil parish: Penshurst
County/Island: Kent
Country: England


Registration district: Sevenoaks
Sub-registration district: Penshurst
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 50
Household Members: Name Age
William Beale 30
William Coulstock 28
James Seal 20
George Coulstock 16
William Seal 12
Jane Malin 20
Elizabeth Sears 55


He must have remarried to Jane and therefore she wouldn't be the mother of William 1860.

Christine


Darealjolo

Darealjolo Report 22 Oct 2009 10:26

Christine,

Thankyou for your reply with all the information. So i have the right William then?

Im so useless at this lol sorry

Joanne