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A long shot I know, but does anybody have any information relating to the Chadwick family who ran the Engineers Arms, Heywood late 19th early 20th century?

You obviously know a lot more info than you have posted, otherwise, how have you found these details?

Can you please post ALL you have on here so that we do not waste time searching for what you already have?

There are many sites we can use to help you but we need to know what you have already.

Thanks,

Dea x

I have a lot of conflicting information, so really trying to verify any one of these strands.Main lead is Charles Chadwick (b.c.1830) with first wife possibly Betty, and subsequent marriage to Mary (possibly Farrow). I am particularly interested in possible leads to a son James (b.c 1858) and his family ,possible wife Angelina (no DOB) and child Mary (c 1880).
Any help much appreciated.

any forenames to go on?

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Hi Alison,

I have had a look around at the info you have given and it is all quite easily found.

What I don't understand is how this relates to your tree and what the 'conflicting info is which is bothering you.

If you DO want some help, I, and others on here are willing to assist but you need to try and explain what you are trying to connect.

Dea x

This from 1911 census:

Address: Engineers Arms 13 Aspinall Street Heywood
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415 CHADWICK, James Head Widower M 54 1857 Publican Heywood Lanc VIEW
415 BUTTERWORTH, Betsey Daughter Married
4 years F 26 1885 Assisting In The Business Heywood Lanc VIEW
415 BUTTERWORTH, John Son In Law Married M 35 1876 Iron Dresser Heywood Lanc VIEW
415 BUTTERWORTH, John Grandchild M 3 1908 Heywood Lanc VIEW
415 BUTTERWORTH, James Grandchild M 1 1910 Heywood Lanc

Same address on 1881:

1881 England Census
about Charles Chadwick
Name: Charles Chadwick
Age: 51
Estimated birth year: abt 1830
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Heyd, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Castleton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 13 Aspinall St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Beer Seller

Registration district: Rochdale
Sub-registration district: Castleton Further
ED, institution, or vessel: 4a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Chadwick 51
Mary Chadwick 42
David Chadwick 21
James Kenyon 62
Bridget Connolly 50



Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 4101; Folio: 83; Page: 21; GSU roll: 1341981.


I have followed the family back and forward but am just not sure what Alison needs?

Dea x

Hi Dea
The conflicting info is from family recollection, these people are my grandmothers family but my father doesn't remember her talking much about them.What I would really like to know about and what happened to first wife of Charles, who was the mother of James and the other children (all born before his marriage to Mary, married in 1880 I have cert), and anything more about James wife Angelina Heminsley(born c 1856 father Samual) - I have tried to find them but not an expert on this. The 1911 info is great as this links them to the Butterworths (one of the names my father knows), but the other missing link is to a Liza (Eliza?)Morsley. She left a shop to my grandmother (James Chadwick's granddaughter) and lived with them when my father was younge.He is certain the connection was to the Chadwicks, but we don't know how.
I know its all a bit vague, but any help much appreciated- you probably know a lot more than me about where too look.

Just cooking Dinner - will come back asap!

Dea x

Thanks Alison,

I will work on it in the morning!!

Dea X

1901 census:

Name Age
James Chadwick 44
Angelina Chadwick 47
Mary A Chadwick 20

All born Heywood Lancashire

1891 census:

James Chadwick 34
Angalina Chadwick 36
Mary A Chadwick 10
Betsey Chadwick 6
Tome Chadwick 2

And this:

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Angelina Chadwick
Name: Angelina Chadwick
Estimated birth year: abt 1853
Year of Registration: 1910
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 57
District: Bury
County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire
Volume: 8c
Page: 290 (click to see others on page)

Hi Alison,

I have drawn a blank on Angelina before marriage I am afraid - you say you have the wedding cert.?

Can you post ALL the info from it please - ages, fathers, occupations, addresses etc., including witnesses?

I DO hate to be beaten!!

Dea x

By the way, I found two possible marriages for Charles + Betty:

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1856
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
CHADWICK Charles DIGGLE Betty Rochdale, St Chad Rochdale CE11/23/275
CHADWICK Charles OGDEN Betty Bury, St.Mary Bury CE7/16/358

Could be either one !!!



Maria's birth registered in Rochdale area
1860 birth:
CHADWICK Maria J Heywood Rochdale H/29/88

........................

Possible death?
Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1866
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
CHADWICK Betty 32 Castleton Nearer Rochdale CN/17/60 - age is a bit out !!

More likely to be this one?
Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1868
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference

CHADWICK Betty 30 Heywood Rochdale H/26/61
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Dea x

Found her!

1851:
Samuel Heminsley
Age: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1812
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Hopwood
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:. Ashes

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Bury
Sub-registration district: Birtle
ED, institution, or vessel: 3c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 61
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Heminsley 39 Brickmaker
Sarah Heminsley 24
Sarah J Heminsley 3
Emiley Heminsley 1



Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2213; Folio: 609; Page: 18; GSU roll: 87223.

Source Information:

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1861 England Census
about Samul Emmersley
Name: Samul Emmersley
Age: 46
Estimated birth year: abt 1815
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Hopwood
Ecclesiastical parish: Middleton St Leonard
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:. Ashes


Registration district: Bury
Sub-registration district: Heywood
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 223
Household Members: Name Age
Samul Emmersley 46 Plaster??? Brick + Tile maker
Sarah Emmersley 33
Eumele Emmersley 12
Anglena Emmersley 8 ***
Henry Emmersley 5
Agness A Emmersley 2 Mo


Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2843; Folio: 139; Page: 45; GSU roll: 543037.

Dea x