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Hello Sidney,

It may be that you are looking for connections to your Chadwick family. In that case, simply put the names you are researching into the Search Trees box above to see if any one on this site has them in their tree.

If you find a connection, you then have the option of contacting the tree owner. Cx

Sidney

Two points............

1) This is an old thread...........if you wish to contact Alison, send her a PM, by clicking on her name

2). You are not allowed to post your e-mail on the boards....please remove it

IGI: Ann Cole = Ralph Chadwick 1667 London,
The pedigree that you rely on is wrong.
Heralds College has no official records on Sir Andrew Chadwick, what they do have is part of a private collection compiled by the then Keeper of The Portculliss for Richmond in Surrey,who fancied himself a geneoligist.
The copyhold on Carter Place Is not to be relied on due to Ellis Chadwick never leaving Bolton.
Reports on the Estates of Sir Andrew Chadwick- is incorrect due to its lack of recearch in the correct places, and the leaving out of major facts.
For more info contact.
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Marriage for James and Angelina

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1880 (>99%)
<<Chadwick James Bury 8c 635 Scan available - click to view
Coulthard Thomas Bury 8c 635 Scan available - click to view
CROPPER Elizabeth Ellen Bury 8c 635 Scan available - click to view
<<Heminsley Angelina Bury 8c 635 Scan available - click to view

Wendy

The original of the 1911 states James address as 13 Aspinall Street, Heyworth. Looking at the Enumerators list it says that number 13 is The Engineers Arms.

Also although James was a widower he stated that he had been married 30 years - this had been crossed through later with a red pen. Therefore he was probably married in 1881ish!!

Wendy

Could Ann Heminsley have been a sister-in-law?

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1878
HEMINSLEY Henry
PICKERING Ann
Prestwich, St.Mary

You are welcome Alison,

Come back on this thread when you get the certs and I will look further!!

Dea x

Hi Dea
No I had nothing on her apart from fathers occupation, but it looks like you have found the correct family,given rather unusual combination of names & same occupation - Ann who witnessed marriage may well have been a more distant relative.Thanks again for all your time & effort. I will get references & send for death certificatesidentified , just to round it all off.
Thanks Again
Alison

So, I have the correct family then for Angelina on 1851 + 1861 - Did you have this already?

What more do you need on her?

Dea x

Hi Dea
Full details from wedding cert
bamford Chapel, Bury. 7th march 1880.father listed as Samual Heminsley, brickmaker.Living at Withington st, Hopwood (heywood?), witnesses David Farrow and x the mark of Ann Heminsley.
Thanks for trying
Alison

Found her!

1851:
Samuel Heminsley
Age: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1812
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Hopwood
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:. Ashes

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Bury
Sub-registration district: Birtle
ED, institution, or vessel: 3c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 61
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Heminsley 39 Brickmaker
Sarah Heminsley 24
Sarah J Heminsley 3
Emiley Heminsley 1



Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2213; Folio: 609; Page: 18; GSU roll: 87223.

Source Information:

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1861 England Census
about Samul Emmersley
Name: Samul Emmersley
Age: 46
Estimated birth year: abt 1815
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Hopwood
Ecclesiastical parish: Middleton St Leonard
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:. Ashes


Registration district: Bury
Sub-registration district: Heywood
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 223
Household Members: Name Age
Samul Emmersley 46 Plaster??? Brick + Tile maker
Sarah Emmersley 33
Eumele Emmersley 12
Anglena Emmersley 8 ***
Henry Emmersley 5
Agness A Emmersley 2 Mo


Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2843; Folio: 139; Page: 45; GSU roll: 543037.

Dea x

By the way, I found two possible marriages for Charles + Betty:

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1856
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
CHADWICK Charles DIGGLE Betty Rochdale, St Chad Rochdale CE11/23/275
CHADWICK Charles OGDEN Betty Bury, St.Mary Bury CE7/16/358

Could be either one !!!



Maria's birth registered in Rochdale area
1860 birth:
CHADWICK Maria J Heywood Rochdale H/29/88

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Possible death?
Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1866
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
CHADWICK Betty 32 Castleton Nearer Rochdale CN/17/60 - age is a bit out !!

More likely to be this one?
Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1868
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference

CHADWICK Betty 30 Heywood Rochdale H/26/61
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Dea x

Hi Alison,

I have drawn a blank on Angelina before marriage I am afraid - you say you have the wedding cert.?

Can you post ALL the info from it please - ages, fathers, occupations, addresses etc., including witnesses?

I DO hate to be beaten!!

Dea x

And this:

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Angelina Chadwick
Name: Angelina Chadwick
Estimated birth year: abt 1853
Year of Registration: 1910
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 57
District: Bury
County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire
Volume: 8c
Page: 290 (click to see others on page)

1891 census:

James Chadwick 34
Angalina Chadwick 36
Mary A Chadwick 10
Betsey Chadwick 6
Tome Chadwick 2

1901 census:

Name Age
James Chadwick 44
Angelina Chadwick 47
Mary A Chadwick 20

All born Heywood Lancashire

Thanks Alison,

I will work on it in the morning!!

Dea X

Just cooking Dinner - will come back asap!

Dea x

Hi Dea
The conflicting info is from family recollection, these people are my grandmothers family but my father doesn't remember her talking much about them.What I would really like to know about and what happened to first wife of Charles, who was the mother of James and the other children (all born before his marriage to Mary, married in 1880 I have cert), and anything more about James wife Angelina Heminsley(born c 1856 father Samual) - I have tried to find them but not an expert on this. The 1911 info is great as this links them to the Butterworths (one of the names my father knows), but the other missing link is to a Liza (Eliza?)Morsley. She left a shop to my grandmother (James Chadwick's granddaughter) and lived with them when my father was younge.He is certain the connection was to the Chadwicks, but we don't know how.
I know its all a bit vague, but any help much appreciated- you probably know a lot more than me about where too look.

Same address on 1881:

1881 England Census
about Charles Chadwick
Name: Charles Chadwick
Age: 51
Estimated birth year: abt 1830
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Heyd, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Castleton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 13 Aspinall St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Beer Seller

Registration district: Rochdale
Sub-registration district: Castleton Further
ED, institution, or vessel: 4a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Chadwick 51
Mary Chadwick 42
David Chadwick 21
James Kenyon 62
Bridget Connolly 50



Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 4101; Folio: 83; Page: 21; GSU roll: 1341981.


I have followed the family back and forward but am just not sure what Alison needs?

Dea x