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Member Since: May 2007 Posts: 67 Send Message	Amy	Report	19 Jan 2010 21:59
Member Since: May 2007 Posts: 67 Send Message	Hi I am trying to find relatives of Robert Clayton who was a mineral water manufactureer for Swepps. His daughter was Elizabeth Clayton. Elizabeth was my great grandfathers mother, he was born 1910 so we are looking pre then. Any help please Thanks so much
Member Since: February 2007 Posts: 73,136 Send Message	AnnCardiff	Report	19 Jan 2010 22:00
	born where?
	Researching: Breakspears of Berkshire and Cardiff, Williams and Harman of Whitchurch, Melingriffith &Tongwynlais,Glamorgan WE HAVE NO CONNECTION Do not share your tree with me
Member Since: August 2009 Posts: 4,576 Send Message	Freewheel	Report	19 Jan 2010 22:02
	Who was born in 1910? Your message is rather unclear
Member Since: February 2007 Posts: 73,136 Send Message	AnnCardiff	Report	19 Jan 2010 22:04
	PDF]Mineral Water Manufacturers Allen, Charles 1855 ... Clayton & Sons. 1898-1905 S.Clayton & Sons, Powerscourt Road, north side ... 1881 11 St Georges Square, Bernard Murtough, Mineral Water Manufacturer, ... homepage.ntlworld.com/stephen.pomeroy/local/mineral.p... - Similar pages
	Researching: Breakspears of Berkshire and Cardiff, Williams and Harman of Whitchurch, Melingriffith &Tongwynlais,Glamorgan WE HAVE NO CONNECTION Do not share your tree with me
Member Since: May 2007 Posts: 67 Send Message	Amy	Report	19 Jan 2010 22:09
Member Since: May 2007 Posts: 67 Send Message	sorry My great grandfather was born in 1910. His parents were Elizabeth clayton (roberts daughter) and James OKeefe
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 21,339 Send Message	JaneyCanuck	Report	19 Jan 2010 22:18
	Amy, to find relations, it seems you are looking for descendants of other children of Robert Clayton. For anyone to help with the search, the first thing needed is a location -- to find the household in a census and see what children there were. Elizabeth's mother's name? Elizabeth's date of birth? The task then involves finding the marriages of any siblings of Elizabeth, their children, etc., but it has to start with Elizabeth's family household before her marriage! And that means having info to use for searching. ... Right, I find no marriage for Elizabeth Clayton and James OKeefe (any spelling) 1880-1920 ... http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl There are O'Keefe-Clayton births (and spelling does count when it comes to names) 1914 (twins), 1916 and 1920 in Holborn reg dist - are these your gr-grfather's siblings?
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Member Since: August 2009 Posts: 4,576 Send Message	Freewheel	Report	19 Jan 2010 22:22
	Where did Elizabeth marry? When did she marry? How old was she?
Member Since: May 2007 Posts: 67 Send Message	Amy	Report	19 Jan 2010 22:26
Member Since: May 2007 Posts: 67 Send Message	I don't have any other information. I only know that my great grandfather was called James OKeefe, he was born 27/05/1910. His parents were James OKeefe and Elizabeth Clayton. I only know that her father was Robert who was a Mineral water manufactuer for Swhepps. I don't know dates or places which I know doesn't help. I just thought somebody might know about the business or have been related to him Thanks everyone for the info so far
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 21,339 Send Message	JaneyCanuck	Report	19 Jan 2010 22:26
	Alrighty, general search of 1881 census (the only year that can be searched by occupation) for occupation "mineral" gets us: Name: Robert Clayton Age: 52 Estimated birth year: abt 1829 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Alice Where born: Wheelton, Lancashire, England >> Occupation: Mineral Water Mfr Civil parish: Chorley County/Island: Lancashire Street Address: 74 Market St Robert Clayton 52 Alice Clayton 50 Catherine Clayton 28 William Clayton 23 Mary Jane Clayton 20 Richard Clayton 17 Robert Clayton 13 James Clayton 11 That household has no daughter Elizabeth, and mother Alice is past childbearing. So Elizabeth's father Robert must have been the son Robert in that household ... he was born c1868 so that leaves barely enough time for him to marry and have a daughter who was married by 1910. Except there really is no Clayton-O'Keefe marriage ...
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Member Since: May 2007 Posts: 67 Send Message	Amy	Report	19 Jan 2010 22:28
Member Since: May 2007 Posts: 67 Send Message	Twins were definalty mentioned so quite possibly. The names I have are Ellen, Violet, Maggie and Daniel. James jnrs siblings, james seniors children
Member Since: May 2007 Posts: 67 Send Message	Amy	Report	19 Jan 2010 22:30
Member Since: May 2007 Posts: 67 Send Message	Thanks janey, that could definatly be them
Member Since: August 2009 Posts: 4,576 Send Message	Freewheel	Report	19 Jan 2010 22:30
	This is the ONLY James O'keefe birth on freebmd in1 910 Births Sep 1910 (99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- O'KEEFE James Bedwellty 11a 92 Have you no idea of any location? Where did you get the info you have?
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 21,339 Send Message	JaneyCanuck	Report	19 Jan 2010 22:31
	But Amy, please, where? The birth of your gr-grfather 1910 even.
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Member Since: August 2009 Posts: 4,576 Send Message	Freewheel	Report	19 Jan 2010 22:31
	You seem to have a lot more info than you led us to think........perhaps you could tell us all you know.....it would be really helpful
Member Since: May 2007 Posts: 67 Send Message	Amy	Report	19 Jan 2010 22:32
Member Since: May 2007 Posts: 67 Send Message	mmmm, yet another mystery then that I may never know the answer too. unfortunatly the great aunt I got the information from has passed away so I cant ask any more questions
Member Since: May 2007 Posts: 67 Send Message	Amy	Report	19 Jan 2010 22:34
Member Since: May 2007 Posts: 67 Send Message	James senior was born in Cork and came to sommers town London? Other than that I don't know where James jnr born
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 21,339 Send Message	JaneyCanuck	Report	19 Jan 2010 22:35
	Whom did James Jr marry, Amy? If we could at least find that record we might have some notion of WHERE these things were happening ...
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Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 21,339 Send Message	JaneyCanuck	Report	19 Jan 2010 22:38
	1911 census O'KEEFE JAMES M 1851 60 Kensington London The only James keef (for any name with KEEF in the middle of it) born in Cork in the 1911 census.
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Member Since: May 2007 Posts: 67 Send Message	Amy	Report	19 Jan 2010 22:38
Member Since: May 2007 Posts: 67 Send Message	James junior married Rosina Harris 3rd August 1935 in London, possibly islington. They kept their marriage a big secret for some reason
Member Since: August 2009 Posts: 4,576 Send Message	Freewheel	Report	19 Jan 2010 22:40
	I had a feeling this was going to be an Irish family

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