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I am looking for help in locating Margaret Elsie Jane Christie Ewen, born in Aberdeen 1933, mother Helen Barbara Taylor Gordon, father Alexander Ewen. There is no record of Margaret's marriage or death in the Scottish records office but I know she has a daughter called Gillian Mayes (presumably this would be Gillian's married name). Can anyone help search for a marriage for either so I at least know if they are still in the UK? Unfortunately, I can see a Margaret Ewen going to South Africa in 1958 on the passenger listings. Any help very welcome. Liz

Hello Elizabeth.

We have a member here who is an expert in Scottish records and has privileged access to them and he would be the very best person to ask for help with this.

If you go to this thread

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1199784

you can click on his name -- Tombul -- and send him a private message.

Or you can just use this link

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/contact.asp?wci=messagenew&contact_key=2476140

to go directly to a form for sending him a message.


If you give him the details of what you are looking for in Scottish records I'm sure he will do what he can to help. He's a rather busy person, so it might take him a few days. ;)

Good luck!

One question - you said

"she has a daughter called Gillian Mayes (presumably this would be Gillian's married name)"

Did you mean that would be Margaret's married name, Mayes?


Re the Margaret Ewen travelling to SA in 1958 - remember it is a fairly common name.

These people were travelling with her (searching for Ewen travelling to SA in 1958 *with* Margaret Ewen):

EWEN Mary 1904 1958 Southampton South Africa Cape
EWEN William 1937 1958 Southampton South Africa Cape

so she seems unlikely, and may have been a Ewen by marriage even.

Name: Margaret EWEN
Date of departure: 2 January 1958
Port of departure: Southampton
Passenger destination port: Cape, South Africa
Passenger destination: Cape, South Africa

Date of Birth: 6 August 1933
Age: 25 (calculated from DOB)
Marital status: Single
Sex: Female
Occupation: Tcher

The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -

Mary EWEN Page>> b 16 September 1904
William EWEN >>b 10 March 1937

Heh heh, FBG, I was editing and you came up with the real stuff in the meantime. ;)

William Ewen doesn't seem to have been born in England/Wales, per the GRO index.

All born Scotland,and william is a radio mechanic and Mary a clerk,all single.

Edited rather than deleted.

Thank you all for the rapid response - impressive! I have been able to rule out the South Africa theory as the dob for my Margaret Ewen is 14/8/1933. I need to know from the English records if Margaret's marriage or death is recorded, if so her married name and area would be helpful too. I know her daughter Gillian Mayes (I am assuming Gillian is using her married name and not her maiden name) has been searching for her mums family too on various sites but we're finding it difficult to make contact, maybe her email address has changed since the postings in 2001. We know from Scottish registry records that Margaret did not marry or die in Scotland
Liz

After what year* might "any marriage in England or Wales have taken place?

"I need to know from the English records if Margaret's marriage or death is recorded, if so her married name and area would be helpful too."

Hm, it works the other way around. You need to know her married surname in order to find a death.

It is possible to search the England/Wales deaths index at Ancestry by given name(s) and exact date of birth, and sometimes a married surname can be surmised from a result. There are actually a dozen deaths for Margarets born 14 Aug 1933, none with your Margaret's middle name(s), but some with none. The index only goes to 2005.

I'm still not grasping the part about Gillian's married surname. Was her birth surname Ewen?

You mention some other posting. The only one I see with the name Gillian Mayes is this from 2003:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=628279

There are three people here at GR with Margaret Ewen born 1933 Aberdeen in their trees. You're in touch? Might the ones with ME born 1932 in Aberdeen be referring to the same person? It would be wise to put a tree of your own on this site, even if sketchy, including the names of the people you're looking for.

Okay, there *is* a Margaret E J Ewen marriage in 1959 in Ilford, Essex. I will PM details.

And yes, there is a daughter to match, and the daughter's marriage to match. All details on their way.

Elizabeth?

Just to add, Margaret and her husband whose name I sent you are on the current electoral roll.

If the contact info I provided for a daughter of Margaret, from BT on line, doesn't work, you can ask Whirley or Jean here at GR for an electoral roll lookup of contact details for those names together in Essex, they are the only household that matches. You can PM Whirley or Jean (not both of course) via their threads:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1190509
or
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1191569

pm sent

PollyPoppet, I hope you didn't spend time doing all over what I did and sent to Elizabeth -- Margaret's marriage, two daughters, daughters' marriages and contact info for one daughter. Did you send the contact info for Margaret and her husband maybe? It would be nice to know, given the time that I did spend on it.

Elizabeth has read my message but I have had no reply.

Could not find a marriage in Scotland from age 16 for Margaret. I tried to find a birth in Scotland for Gillian under the mothers maiden surname of Ewen but again no luck.

I will check the death indexes and see if I can find anything there.

Tom

Although I found her birth record in 1933 there is no record of a death in Scotland from 1933 up till today for this person. There were a few named Margaret Ewen but non with the same middle names or parentage.

Tom

Sorry Tom -- I did try to make it clear what I found!

Margaret married in England and her children were born and married there, and I found contact info (address and telephone number) for one of the children, in England, and Margaret and her husband on the current electoral roll in England.

I guess maybe Elizabeth did contact you and then didn't let you know my results?

I'm really rather surprised not to have heard back myself ...

Edited,as it was just idle gossip.
viv

Hi Everyone
I think Elizabeth has posted this trying to help me
margaret elsie jane christie ewen is my dads sister we are trying to trace her
we know she didnt marry in scotland
but i believe she married in england to a ? wilkins dont have any dates but think it was in bristol
she had a daughter gillian wilkins who married i think a raymond mayes
again i dont have a date of birth or marriage
again i think this took place in bristol
she had a thread on ancestrey looking for family of her mother margaret
which all details match with mine but we are finding it hard to contact her
she has also posted on here i have pm her also but had no reply as they are old threads i feel she may no longer be on the site
i am so close to finding her for my dad so any help would be greatly appreciated
thankyou
i have pm Elizabeth but had no answer as yet

I'm just not understanding.

Is that something new from Elizabeth?

I PMed her everything she could possibly need last night, and she's read the message! (unless I found a family of doppelgangers, Gillian was not Wilkins - that person's mother was not Ewen - and that marriage is completely unrelated.) Still don't know what you sent her, PollyPoppet ...