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BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 27 Jan 2010 22:05

This could be janes birth??

JANE ORDOYNE BRAVENDER Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 24 FEB 1803 Newark Upon Trent, Nottingham, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Mother: MARY BRAVENDER Family


Thinking about it Jane would be 11 when she married IF she was baptised when she was an infant.

Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 27 Jan 2010 22:04

There is a tree on ancestry stating that these are Thomas's parents;

JOSEPH FERNANDES Pedigree
Male Family


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Marriages:
Spouse: JANE BRAVENDER Family
Marriage: 04 JUL 1814 Holy Trinity, Kingston Upon Hull, Yorkshire, England


Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 27 Jan 2010 21:46

Prior to Josephs birth;

1851 England Census
about Thos Furnandey
Name: Thos Furnandey
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1827
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Wollaton
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Basford
Sub-registration district: Basford
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 41
Household Members: Name Age
Thos Furnandey 24 >>>>Groom
Ann Furnandey 25
Jane Furnandey 1


BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 27 Jan 2010 21:42

1871 England Census
about Joseph Fernandez
Name: Joseph Fernandez
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relation: Apprentice
Gender: Male
Where born: Worlington, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil parish: Great Driffield
Town: Driffield
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Driffield
Sub-registration district: Driffield
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 17
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Ward 52 >> Painter, Plumber and Decorator.
Rachel Ward 48
Emily Theresa Ward 22
Robert Croomber Ward 20
Jemima Elizabeth Ward 18
Laura Annie 14
Laura Croomber 35
Joseph Fernandez 20
John William Elvidge 17


BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 27 Jan 2010 21:41

1861 England Census
about Joseph Furnandiz
Name: Joseph Furnandiz
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Williston, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil parish: Elmswell and Kelleythorpe
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Driffield
Sub-registration district: Driffield
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 47
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Furnandiz 34 Born Hull, occupation, Groom
Ann Furnandiz 35
Jane Furnandiz 11
Joseph Furnandiz 10
William Furnandiz 8
Heenry Furnandiz 5
Thomas Furnandiz 2


Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 27 Jan 2010 21:33

1901 England Census
about Walter Fumandiz
Name: Walter Fumandiz
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Holy Trinity
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Hull
Sub-registration district: Myton
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 263
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Fumandiz 50
Walter Fumandiz 18
Mary Ann Fumandiz 17
Eleanor Fumandiz 14


Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 27 Jan 2010 21:30

1891 England Census
about Walter Fernandez
Name: Walter Fernandez
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Holy Trinity
Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabus
Town: Kingston Upon Hull
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Hull
Sub-registration district: Myton
ED, institution, or vessel: 57
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Fernandez 38
Edith Fernandez 12
Walter Fernandez 8
Mary A Fernandez 7
Eleanor Fernandez 4


Gertrude is an inmate in a girls institution in 1891.



Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 27 Jan 2010 21:23

Looks like Joseph died;

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page

Deaths Jun 1889 (>99%)
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Furnandiz Joseph 38 Hull 9d 172

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Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 27 Jan 2010 21:21

1881 England Census
about Gertrude Fernandez
Name: Gertrude Fernandez
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Elizth.
Gender: Female
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Kingston-Upon-Hull
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address: 4 Victoria Terrce
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Hull
Sub-registration district: Myton
ED, institution, or vessel: 82
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Fernandez 30 Born Nottinghamshire, England, occupation; Painter
Elizth. Fernandez 30
Edith Fernandez 3
Gertrude Fernandez
Mary Pattinson 60 Mother in Law


I beleive that Gertrude is Walters sister??


Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 27 Jan 2010 21:03

Parents marriage;

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1909 (>99%)
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>>>>>>>>>>>>FURNANDIZ Walter Hull 9d 523
>>>>>>>>>>>>>KILVINGTON Isabella Hull 9d 523
THYSSEN Albert Hull 9d 523
WOOLNOUGH Lily Hull 9d 523



Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 27 Jan 2010 18:30

Got to nip out, I'll try and pick this up later... if not it will be in the morning.


Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 27 Jan 2010 18:14

Probably his parents;

1911 census free search;

HOUSEHOLD FURNANDIZ GERTRUDE F 1881 30 Sculcoates Yorkshire East Riding (with York)
HOUSEHOLD FURNANDIZ ISABELLA F 1886 25 Sculcoates Yorkshire East Riding (with York)
HOUSEHOLD FURNANDIZ MARJORIE ISABELLA F 1910 1 Sculcoates Yorkshire East Riding (with York)
HOUSEHOLD FURNANDIZ WALTER M 1883 28 Sculcoates Yorkshire East Riding (with York



Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 27 Jan 2010 18:12

His death;

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Sidney Furnandiz
Name: Sidney Furnandiz
Death Registration Month/Year: 1964
Age at death (estimated): 51
Registration district: Preston
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 10f
Page: 276



Did he also remarry?


Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 27 Jan 2010 18:07

Hi shaun,

I see Richards mother was a Robinson...and he has a younger sister??? This sounding right??

The surname is quite unusual, this is a very big help!!!

Looking like his fathers birth?


Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

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Births Dec 1912 (>99%)
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Furnandis Sidney Kilvington Sculcoates 9d 490



Dee x

Shaun

Shaun Report 27 Jan 2010 16:45

thank you all for your help,especially you dee,i wonder if you could help with my paternal line.i am estranged from my father(richard furnandiz born c1941 in hull)i believe his father could be sidney furnandis but really am not sure
thanks again

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 26 Jan 2010 17:28

From family search (IGI);

RICE HADLEY Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth: 01 JAN 1820

Christening: 31 MAR 1823 Saint Phillips, Birmingham, Warwick, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: JOHN HADLEY Family
Mother: MARY





Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 26 Jan 2010 17:26

1841 England Census
about Rice Hadley
Name: Rice Hadley
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1820
Gender: Male
Where born: Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Birmingham
Hundred: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St Mary
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Hadley 60
Rice Hadley 21 >>>>>>> GUNSMITH
Zilla Hadley 18
Maria Renshaw 28
William Renshaw 4


The family above Rice's family is also Hadley, Edwin is 30 and is also in the GUN Profession.


Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 26 Jan 2010 17:24

1851 England Census
about Rice Hadley
Name: Rice Hadley
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1821
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: GUN MAKER

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Duddeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 67
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Whitehouse 52
Emma Whitehouse 52
William Whitehouse 17
Joseph Whitehouse 13
James Beck 60
Rice Hadley 30
Mary Hadley 28
Sarah Hadley 3
Richard Hadley 1


His marriage;

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1845 (>99%)
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GOLDSTRAW Paul W Bromwich 18 778
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>HADLEY Rice W Bromwich 18 778
Lissimore Elizabeth W Bromwich 18 778
Lowe Edward W Bromwich 18 778
PARKES Ann W Bromwich 18 778
ROYLE John Stourbridge 18 778
SAVAGE Ann Titley W Bromwich 18 778
SAVAGE Anne Titley W Bromwich 18 778
Southall Thomas W Bromwich 18 778
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>WHITEHOUSE Mary W Bromwich 18 778



Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 26 Jan 2010 17:14

I think Mary A's fathers name is a bit of a giveaway here!!!

1871 England Census
about Mary Ann Hadley
Name: Mary Ann Hadley
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1859
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Rice
Mother's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: London, England
Civil parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
Town: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 36
Household schedule number: 109
Household Members: Name Age
Rice Hadley 49
Mary Ann Hadley 49
Emma Hadley 19
Maria Hadley 14
Mary Ann Hadley 12
Arthur Hadley 6


Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 26 Jan 2010 17:11

Now you would really need the marriage certificate to confirm the next step......... I would hazard a guess that James's father was in the railway business of his occupation.... sons often followed their fathers, but NOT always. So this is just a guess;

1871 England Census
about James Newton
Name: James Newton
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Edwin
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Civil parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: Duddeston Cum Nechells
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Duddeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Household schedule number: 108
Household Members: Name Age
Edwin Newton 39 >>>>>>>>>> Railway Porter.
Ann Newton 40
James Newton 11
William Newton 8
Martha Newton 7
Edwin Newton 5
Lizzy Newton 8 months
Edward Jones 31


Dee x