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hi there
can anyone help im trying to find out any information regarding my great grandfather wiliam H buckland who was a yeoman jailer he became a yeoman jailer in 1935 before that he was a cold stream guard as was his dad jack buckland (cant seem to find anything on my great grandfathers mother or anything else on my great grandfathers father barring his name)

william married a lady called hannah hunt and they went on to have 6 children one being my grandfather his name was arthur leonard buckland he was born in 1930 and died in 1991

the other children were francis W buckland d.o.b 1918 he went on to marry a bessie howson in suffolk i believe they had 2 children maybe three (all boys i think)

florence m buckland born june 1920 married a man called ben but never had children
lillian m buckland born 1922 (i have been told she never married but had a son christopher)
kenneth r buckland born 1926 (i have been told he married a woman called valerie but cannot find any record of this they had a son called christopher dont know if they had any more

doreen E buckland born 1928 went on to marry i believe a man called victor unsure if they had children


i believe doreen, kenneth, and florence were all married at St Peter ad Vincula church Tower of London
Tower Hill, London

im really hoping someone can help as ive come to a bit of a dead end
many thanks in advance
kirsten

MESSAGE FOR OZI
thank you for pointing me in the right direction regarding the photos on flickr the gentleman in the photo is my great grandfather and have been in contact with a couple of members of his family

Have you tried a search on this site to see if anyone else is looking for the family
Liz

Kirsten, exactly what do you want to know? And please don't say "anything". Are you trying to get further back than 1916?

For ref:
Marriages Dec 1916
Bloor Ethel Vowles Croydon 2a 762
Buckland William H Hunt Croydon 2a 762
Hunt Hannah E Buckland Croydon 2a 762
Vowles Joseph A E Bloor Croydon 2a 762

hi there
thanks for the replies all im trying to find out is the marriages of my grandfathers siblings and the parents names of my grandfathers grandfather

thanks again

Are you saying William's father was a Coldstream Guard on his marriage cert to Hannah?

Ozi

i definately know williams father jack was a cold stream guard when william was growing up whether he still was when william married hannah hunt i do not know

sorry the information is sketchy but all the info i have is off my grandmother and a newspaper article

thanks again

I'm sorry, I was called away. I realize you may not answer this until tomorrow.

Does the newspaper say that they were in the Coldstream Guards? How much is actual fact?

Also, do you mean Yeoman Gaoler at the Tower of London?

Do you know of Trevor Buckland who has photos of WH Buckland as a Yeoman Warder & Yeoman Gaoler?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/32389133@N04/sets/72157615119267439/

I don't mean to have an inquisition. I'm just trying to get my head around things.

Ozi

Have you found WH Buckland in the 1911 census?

BTW, WH Buckland served at the Tower of London for 24 years. I think 60 years must be a mistake, especially as Yeoman Warders have to have served in the forces for at least 22 years, and be non-commissioned officers which means they have to be in their late 30s, at least, when they join the Yeomanry.

Ozi

Do you know if William H Buckland's father was called JACK or JOHN?


Do you know what the H stands for in William's name?

Are any actual dates, or ages of people, given in that newspaper article?





sylvia

hi
i am so sorry ozi, i managed to read the newspaper article wrong regarding how long he served as a yeoman jailer

here is an except of the newspaper article

"The tower of london simply wont be the same again,even the strutting ravens will miss old bill, for bill buckland,yeoman jailer, is retiring,
bill's story really begins 60 years ago when the three yr old son of coldstream guardsman jack buckland played on the tower ramparts,
when bill grew up he too became a coldstreamer before joining the tower as a yeoman in 1935
now after service under four monarchs bill leaves his post on friday he is 63 and has controlled the towers 36 beefeaters for the past six years
he will climb out of the £100 uniform and march out instead of the blue door cottage on tower green where the ravens gather, he will have a home by the sea at thorpe bay.

bill at 6ft and 16 stone must also say goodbye to the towers chapel royal of st peter where three of his six children were married."


ive only written out part of the article as the rest is not relevent
ive tried speaking to my nan again as william was her father in law but unfortunately because of her age she doesnt remember a lot

thanks u everyone for ur help

Hi
What is the date of the newspaper article? from that we can establish when he was born

Ann

hi ozi
i have just had a look at trevor bucklands photos and to be truthful his william buckland and mine look like the same person im not 100% as the photos i have are a little unclear i have contacted trevor and is hoping he will reply

the 1911 census shows only one WHB in London

HOUSEHOLD BUCKLAND WILLIAM H M 1891 20 Lambeth London

But as he was in the army he may not appear on census anyway?

hi rambling rose
if william is unable to be found in the census because of the army would there be a record of his wife and their children in the census instead???

kirstendeanne , Hi am having a bit of trouble getting my head round possible birth dates...is there a date on the news paper article by any chance?

If WHB married Hannah in 1916 , the one below in 1911 might be the right one...

have you got any firm date of birth for him?

what might be connected is this on 1911

MILITARY BUCKLAND JACK 1883 28 Overseas Military

I wonder if this might be William's brother? Jack's son?

hi
i have no birthdate for william at all, all i know is who he was married to, the only other info i have is the names and birthdates of williams children and the name of williams father

im sorry it is not a lot

I think kirstendeanne if Trevor gets back to you he may well have some more details, but in the meantime I would order the marriage cert of william and hannah...that may have a clue as to an address or maybe even a member of the family as witness.

There are possibles on the 1901 census but no 'Jack ' Buckland... one family does have a number of children with 'J' as middle initial so it could be that he used second name ...

thank you
i think the best bet like you say is i will order the marriage cert of william and hannah and hopefully on there is williams fathers name or something that might give me a bit more of a clue

thanks for all your help
it is appreciated very much

kirsten

dont know if this helps but i believe i have found the death record of william buckland

birthdate 2 Feb 1897
Death Registration Month/Year:1979
Registration district: Southend On Sea
Inferred County: Essex

im wondering from that if i can find his birth record off to have a look now