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Dorothy

Dorothy Report 25 Feb 2010 07:22

I have a birth cert. with parents of Joseph Cecil Bradshaw b.1892,Didsbury, who are Joseph Cecil and Emily.Can anyone help me find Joseph Cecil Snr.???

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 25 Feb 2010 07:36

What is Emily's maiden name and the occupation of Joseph on the birth cert?

Christine

Battenburg

Battenburg Report 25 Feb 2010 07:39

Is Joseph ( father) a photographic artist
There is a Bradshaw family living Withington parish in 1901.

I cant see the full details of who is together

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 25 Feb 2010 07:39

1901 England Census about Joseph C Bradshaw
Name: Joseph C Bradshaw
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1892
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Emily
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Withington
Ecclesiastical parish: Withington St Paul
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 170 Wil*?*slow Rd
Occupation:

Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Didsbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 144
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Bradshaw 40 .. Photographic **?**
Emily Bradshaw 39
Joseph C Bradshaw 9
Arthur Bradshaw 4
George H Bradshaw 3
Ada Lilian Bradshaw 3
Ellen Manchester 50 .. General Servant

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 25 Feb 2010 07:42

Possible.


1881 England Census
about Joseph C. Bradshaw
Name: Joseph C. Bradshaw
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Emily J.
Gender: Male
Where born: McHester, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Rusholme
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 2 St Johns Avenue
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education


Occupation: Photo Painter

Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Ardwick
ED, institution, or vessel: 87
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph C. Bradshaw 25
Emily J. Bradshaw 24

Christine

Battenburg

Battenburg Report 25 Feb 2010 07:44

Julcoe has the family.
There is a Mabel Bradshaw 23 Patricroft Lancs occ assistant to photographer
living Withington

I wonder if she is a relative?

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 25 Feb 2010 07:52

1891 England Census about Joseph C Bradshaw
Name: Joseph C Bradshaw
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Emily
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Withington
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Innocents
Town: Ladybarn
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 27 Egerton St
Occupation: Artist

Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Didsbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph C Bradshaw 34
Emily Bradshaw 32
Edith Hoggs 10 .. niece

SnowyJen

SnowyJen Report 25 Feb 2010 08:06

possible!

Marriage St George Chorley, Lancashire, England
BRADSHAW, Joseph Age:22
Wife: Emily POLLARD Age:21
Marriage Date: 10 May 1879
Husband's Father: Hugh BRADSHAW
Wife's Father: William POLLARD

Marriages Jun 1879
Bradshaw Joseph
Pollard Emily
Chorley 8e 612

Births Mar 1892
Bradshaw Joseph Cecil
Chorlton 8c 718


Christening St George Chorley, Lancashire, England
BRADSHAW, Seth
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 24 Aug 1889
Christening Date: 29 Sep 1889
Father: Joseph BRADSHAW
Mother: Emily


Deaths Dec 1890
Bradshaw Seth age 1
Chorley 8e 395

Dorothy

Dorothy Report 26 Feb 2010 01:27

Hello Christine from Portugal,Quinsgran and Julcoe,Thank you all so much for trying to help me.I have seen the census and the earliest I have been able to turn up anything is 1881 census where Joseph and Emily are at 2 St,Johns Ave.The Birth.Cert of Joseph Cecil II has his parents as Joseph Cecil(artist) and Emily Slinger.The census show that Joseph (one) was born lancashire and Emily b. Scarborough.
Dorothy.
Sorry I don't reply straight away but I am in Queensland Australia.

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 26 Feb 2010 01:44

This one's the son of a photographer:
1871 Ancestry
Name: Joseph Bradshaw
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1859
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchester
Civil parish: Cheetham
Ecclesiastical parish: Cathedral
Town: Cheetham
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: Cheetham
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 163
Household Members:
Name Age
George Bradshaw 44
Mary Bradshaw 51
George Bradshaw 20
Mary Bradshaw 16
Champion Bradshaw 14
Joseph Bradshaw 12

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 4062; Folio: 63; Page: 31

Maureen

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 26 Feb 2010 01:47

For Ref:


1911 census transcription details for: 274 Bury New Road Broughton Salford

RG14PN23996 RG78PN1382 RD465 SD2 ED20 SN87

Reg. District: Salford Sub District: Broughton
Parish: Broughton Enum. District: 20
Address: 274 Bury New Road Broughton Salford
County: Lancashire

BRADSHAW, Joseph Head Married
20 years M 52 1859 Retired Portrait Painter Lanc Manchester
BRADSHAW, Emily Wife Married
20 years F 49 1862 Yorks Scarborough
BRADSHAW, Joseph Cecil Son Single M 19 1892 Art Student Withington Manchester Lanc
BRADSHAW, Arthur Son M 14 1897 School Withington Manchester Lanc
BRADSHAW, George Herbert Son M 13 1898 School Withington Manchester Lanc
BRADSHAW, Ada Lilian Daughter F 12 1899 School Withington Manchester Lanc
Say they've had 4 children,all living.

Maureen

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 26 Feb 2010 02:07

So you knew all that William? It really does help if you tell people what you already know, to save people spending time looking for guesses.

The 1901 census is a bit out of line re the couple's ages, but right occupation and Chorlton/Didsbury/Withington/Rusholme are all much of a muchness, being suburbs on the outskirts of Manchester towards Cheshire, mostly merged into one area.

The marriage in 1879 is in Chorley, not the same area, not really Manchester, though the ages fit with the 1881 census. Oh, it isn't William's Emily if her father is Pollard.

No luck yet with a marriage of Emily Slinger.

Possible birth of Joseph?

Name: Joseph Bradshaw
Year of Registration: 1856
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Chorlton
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8c
Page: 433 (click to see others on page)

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 26 Feb 2010 02:11

I tried to backtrack with that niece in 1891-Edith Hogg> I got this far:
Marriages Mar 1880 (>99%)
Hogg William Richard Scarbro 9d 471
SLINGER Hannah Scarborough 9d 471

1881 Ancestry
Name: Edith Hogg
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William R.
Mother's Name: Hannah
Gender: Female
Where born: Scarboro, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Scarborough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address: 29b Albion Street

Registration district: Scarborough
Sub-registration district: Scarborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 5a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William R. Hogg 23
Hannah Hogg 21 born Scarbro
Edith Hogg 6 months

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 4802; Folio: 168; Page: 65

But I can't tie Hannah and Emily together.

Maureen

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 26 Feb 2010 02:20

This is the 1861 census for the family that Maureen found in 1871:

1861 England Census
about Champion J Jan Bradshaw
Name: Champion J Jan Bradshaw
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George Bagnall
Mother's Name: Mary Dorothea
Gender: Male
Where born: Cheetham, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Cheetham
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: Cheetham
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 22
Household Members: Name Age
George Bagnall Bradshaw 42
Mary Dorothea Bradshaw 33
John Champion Bradshaw 14
William Jas Bradshaw 11
George Bagnall Bradshaw 9
Champion J Jan Bradshaw 4
Joseph Wright Bradshaw 3
Mary Amelia Bradshaw 7
Mary Dorothea Clampihan 85

But Joe is not Joe Cecil. The father is a something designer.

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 26 Feb 2010 02:24

Is this you, William? Found on

http://services.salford.gov.uk/forum/forumposts.asp?forum=22&id=66271&p=3

Posted by: marsal on 17/12/2009 at 01:44
I am looking for connections to Joseph Cecil Bradshaw b. 1/7/1856 married Emily Slinger @ St.James Didsbury.Can anyone help me?

Dorothy -Australia

If it's not you, I would reply to it pronto.

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 26 Feb 2010 02:32

http://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/tourism/pgrphrs/pgrhrs.htm

Bradshaw John Champion, 1847-
One of main supporters in the early days of the Arts & Crafts movement on the Island (along with J.M.Nicholson & R. Wane) - a copy of his painting of Douglas Market, which includes a self portrait, is in Journal Manx Museum iv #58 p104 March 1939)
1881c: a John C. Bradshaw, Artist (Portrait & Landscape), is shown as a lodger at Margaret Gelling's boarding house at 13 Mount Havelock
1881: Mount Havelock
1883: Mount Havelock
1887: 40 Finch road
1889: 40 Finch road
1893 40 Finch road, Photographic studio now conducted by Mr. L.B. Bradshaw (Brown's Guide, 1893)
1894: 40 Finch road

Very interesting. Not the one who is the father of "our" Joseph Cecil, but probably related to the family in Cheetham, and perhaps related to Joseph Cecil.

We need to find this marriage of Emily Slinger. Married for 20 years in 1911, and according to the above post married in Didsbury.

Dorothy

Dorothy Report 27 Feb 2010 07:22

Hello Madmeg, I am so sorry if I have done the wrong thing.I have not mean't to offend anyone(least of all those who are trying to help)Yes, it is me on the Salford site.And you will find me on a lot of other places too.I am just trying all out to try to find just where this first Joseph Cecil came from.I thought I had found them being married at St.James Didsbury.Too many Bradshaws.I thought the same as other people that he was the Joseph with the Bagnall Champion names.But no.
Madmeg ,please don't be mad at me I need your help.
Regards Dorothy Hollings-Australia(subscription taken out in husbands name)

Dorothy

Dorothy Report 27 Feb 2010 07:26

Hello SnowyJen,MaureeinN.Y. Thank you both so much for trying to help and I am sorry for Not telling you what information that I had.I do really appreciate your help.I have been trying for some time to find out information on this Joseph Cecil Bradshaw.Brick wall.
Regards Dorothy-Australia

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 27 Feb 2010 07:59

Dorothy,
I don't blame you at all for giving this one another go. Your wall seems to be made of "foam rubber" rather than brick.
The Bradshaws ( the Champion group) weren't registered with those wonderful middle names were they? And the Slingers really seem to be "yours".
Maureen

Mary

Mary Report 27 Feb 2010 10:54

I think this is Emily.

1861 James Slinger born 1829 Burton in Kendal Westmorland.
Jane 1828 Bolton le Moors Lancs
Jane born Darlington/Stockton on tees 1856 (Emily?)
Mary 1849 Lancs
James 1854 Lancs
Elizabth 1858 Stockton
Elizabeth Ann 1860 Scarborough.
1871 Jane 1829 widow
Hannah
Elizabeth Ann 1858
John Henry 1863 Scarborough
Catherine Leah 1865 Scarborough.

1871 Jane Slinger 1856 Stockton on tees a servant in Scarborough
for Fred bell born 1830 Stockton on tees he was a Carver and Guilder.

1891 Joseph C Bradshaw
Emily born STOCKTON about 1859.

So is Jane 1856 the Emily Jane married to Joseph C Bradshaw.

I still can't find theire marriage though.

Maryb

Edit just looked at original 1911 it looks to me it says Seasborough Yorks not Scarborough.

I think Seasborough is near Redcar/ northumberland/Durham area?