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Bette-ann

Bette-ann Report 11 Mar 2010 23:34

Looking for information on my husbands maternal grandparents .Alfred Stanton and he died in the 1930's MY mother in law (Christine)was born in 1933 and she has one older sister Doris born in 1930. Their father died and their mum was a bit quiet about their dad and the family history. It is believed by mother in law that her father died doing medical service for the red cross. We have no dates or information about him and she would really like to know more. Also her mum was Charlotte Dowell and Christine believes her mother may have been from a family from Wales that was associated with the Dowell iron works. But there again not much information. I would love to trace her family history for her. Thank you in advance for any information on either Dowell or Stanton.

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England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
Here's the marriage:

Name: Alfred W Stanton
Spouse Surname: Dowell
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1929
Registration district: Wandsworth
Registration county (inferred): Surrey
Volume Number: 1d
Page Number: 744
Find Spouse: Charlotte D Dowell

Rose

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Death?

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Alfred W Stanton
Name: Alfred W Stanton
Death Registration Month/Year: 1940
Age at death (estimated): 50
Registration district: Battersea
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 608

Rose

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Births Dec 1904
DOWELL Charlotte Dorothy Wandsworth 1d 702

Rose

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Possible birth but you need to get the marriage cert. to find his middle name and father.

Births Jun 1889
Stanton Alfred Walter Hackney 1b 590


Do it soon before the price increases.

Given his age he could have been married before.

Rose

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Schedule type Last names First names Sex Birth year Age in 1911 District / other County / other Transcript Original page
HOUSEHOLD DOWELL ARTHUR GEORGE M 1890 21 Wandsworth London
HOUSEHOLD DOWELL CATHERINE FRANCIS F 1893 18 Wandsworth London
HOUSEHOLD DOWELL EMMA F 1869 42 Wandsworth London
HOUSEHOLD DOWELL GEORGE SAMUEL M 1867 44 Wandsworth London
HOUSEHOLD DOWELL RICHARD JAMES M 1898 13 Wandsworth London
HOUSEHOLD DOWELL SAMUEL ROBERT M 1900 11 Wandsworth London
HOUSEHOLD DOWELL WILLIAM FRANCIS M 1910 1 Wandsworth London
HOUSEHOLD DOWELL CHARLOTTE DOROTHY F 1905 6 Wandsworth London

Rose

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No links to Wales so far:

1901 England Census
about George Dowell
Name: George Dowell
Age: 33
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Emma
Gender: Male
Where born: Battersea, London, England
Civil parish: Battersea
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub-registration district: East Battersea
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 334
Household Members: Name Age
George Dowell 33
Emma Dowell 31
Arthur Dowell 10
Kate Dowell 7
Emma Dowell 5
Richard Dowell 3
Samuel Dowell 1

Rose

Bette-ann

Bette-ann Report 11 Mar 2010 23:52

Wow, im really surprised. We had no idea that her dad was that old when he died. Is there any information about where he might be buried? And also if we could get a names of parents of Charlotte or Alfred. Thank you Rose for replying and so fast! :)
cheers,
Bette-ann

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1871 England Census
about Richard Dowell
Name: Richard Dowell
Age: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1829
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Charlotte
Gender: Male
Where born: Bloomsbury, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Battersea
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub-registration district: Battersea
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Household schedule number: 138
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Dowell 42
Charlotte Dowell 38
Joseph Dowell 12
Richard Dowell 8
George Dowell 3
Charlotte Dowell 10

Rose

Bette-ann

Bette-ann Report 11 Mar 2010 23:54

Sorry i was replying while you were sending more...going through what you have sent... very excited, thanks again! My MIL is currently in hospital and this will be a great way to cheer her up!

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From CWGC but the age doesn't fit the death I found.

Casualty Details
Name: STANTON, ALFRED WILLIAM
Initials: A W
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Civilian
Regiment/Service: Civilian War Dead
Age: 37
Date of Death: 08/10/1940
Additional information: Husband of C. D. Stanton, of 250 Glastonbury Road, Morden, Surrey. Died at Endell Street.
Casualty Type: Civilian War Dead
Reporting Authority: HOLBORN, METROPOLITAN BOROUGH

Rose

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There's this one:

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Alfred W Stanton
Name: Alfred W Stanton
Death Registration Month/Year: 1940
Age at death (estimated): 37
Registration district: Holborn
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 830

Rose

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This must be the birth:

Births Jun 1903
STANTON Alfred William Wandsworth 1d 590


Rose

Bette-ann

Bette-ann Report 12 Mar 2010 00:29

Thank you rose, i am busy filling in my empty tree spots...question ? why are some posts deleted? Have I made an error by posting about Alfred and Charlotte on both Stanton and Dowell surname searches? I am very new to this so I would like to know if i am going against board etiquette.

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 12 Mar 2010 00:32

I deleted my first post because I had asked whenre Christine was born but then I found the birth.

Rose

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 12 Mar 2010 01:40

The fault is actually with G.R.... but very frustrating for members trying to find info for you.

When you post on the "Surname" board, your requsest also appears on the "Trying to Find" board...... there fore you have 2 requests about the same couple.

Obviously the marriage applies to both, then we extend our searches from there.
Hopefully finding their births, parents etc, etc..

So you end up with 2 threads with the same info.
Usually found by different people because they do not know of the second thread.
Then people get annoyed at wasting time finding info which is already been found.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 12 Mar 2010 16:18

I am putting this here for Bette-Ann from her other thread and then hopefully just this thread can be used to help find things on this family for her.




Thanks to everyone for your understanding about my lack of board etiquette. Sorry again for causing grief!
Still hoping to find where my mother in law's father's final resting place would be. Did some research on Edsall road and discovered that to be a war hospital. Would like to also know of any family related to Alfred Stanton, parents, siblings etc. She knows so little about him as she was just a wee thing when he died. So far I have learned he died as a war civilian at Edsall road, on august 8th 1940. His birth date was 1903, June I believe.
Thanks again,
Bette-ann

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 12 Mar 2010 16:21

His resting place should be here,as per details from the War graves site as posted earlier by Rose.

Cemetery Details

Cemetery: HOLBORN, METROPOLITAN BOROUGH
Country: Civilian War Dead
Locality: London
No. of Identified Casualties: 269

To identify Alfred on 1911 census you really need to send for his marriage cert for his fathers name and occupation.
There are a couple of Alfred Stantons that could be him,favourite being the one in Wandsworth reg district,BUT it would simply be guessing I fear..

What do you think Rose?

Bette-ann

Bette-ann Report 12 Mar 2010 19:51

Hi everyone, Just thought I would let you all know that I spoke with my mum in law this afternoon and she is just out of hospital, thankfully doing okay now, but we had a bit of scare. she just loved hearing all this information and thanks all of your for your contributions. she added a bit from the stories told to her as a child that apparently her father( alfred) was driving for St Johns ambulance and it was bombed and he wasn't found until weeks later on a roof of a building.. Now I imagine this is a story that has been exaggerated a tad over the years, and given that he died at Edsall Road,( hospital) I assume he was probably found hours, not days or even weeks, lol but I'm hoping there is some records somewhere to help identify who his family was. Thinking this other Alfred Walter Stanton who also died in 1940 may have been a cousin?? Any thoughts?
thanks again everyone!

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 12 Mar 2010 20:20

The only real way to get anywhere is to invest £7 at the GRO on his marriage cert as I said before.
Certs go up to £9.25p on 6th April from GRO
Anything else is guess work.