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Mother and siblings of John Turner born in 1848 in St. Pancras Middlesex. His father was Henry Turner.
I think I may have gone down the wrong Turner road so any help with this information would be greatly appreciated.

As you know his Dad was Henry..Do you have his marriage cert

This is the only John i can see with Dad Henry born in the year you say

1851

John Turner
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1848
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Southwark, Surrey, England
Civil parish: St George Hanover Square
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

View image
Registration district: St George Hanover Square
Sub-registration district: Hanover Square
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 166
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Turner 28
Mary Ann Turner 25
Henry Turner 5
John Turner 3
Elizabeth Turner 5 Mo

Henry is a Gentleman Servant

Hi,
Sorry folks, I put the date wrong John was born 1838 NOT 1848
Henry was a cabinet maker from London. I thought I had the correct Henry but now I'm not sure and this is why I would like to know who Henrys other children are and his wifes maiden name.
I have information on John and Adah. They met and married in 1861 in Holkham Norfolk and later moved to Regents Park, London.

Hi

found a
John Turner born 1/4/1839 christened 19/6/1842 st Marylebone, Westminster father Henry (Cabinet maker) and mother Mary Ann lived looks like 3 munster street

will see what else I can find for you

Ann

Hello Ann
Thank you
Lynne

On the same page:
1861 census
Girls School, Holkham, Norfolk
Elizabeth Buck, head, widow, 68, schoolmistress, born Devonshire
Catharine J., dau, 31, lady's maid, born Holkham
***Ada, dau, 23, shop assistant, born "

Cottage, Holkham, Norfolk
John Turner, head, unmarried, 23, national schoolmaster, born London, Regents Park
Mary, mother, widow, 62, born London

this is a possible marriage for Henry and Mary Ann unfortunately the writing on the certificate is blurred (have informed ancestry) so cant see his occupation

Henry Turner Full age married Mary Ann Harold Hayson on 26/8/1839 st Anne soho, westminster father Daniel Turner and spouse father Wm Hayson

the only trouble with this is they would have married after John was born. It is a shame I cant read his occupation it would solve everthing.

another odd thing a child born Alfred Joseph ch16/2/1870 born 2/10/1864 father Henry furniture dealer deceased mother mary ann possible child??

big gap if so

sorry cant be more helpful

Ann

hi

I have this marriage on familysearch.org

Mary Ann clarke hodgson married 21/8/1838 saint anne soho westminster to Henry Turner

possible??

Ann

Hi Ann.
Johns parents quite possibly did marry the same year he was born which I suppose did happen - but I am getting confused as I have now found a note made a while ago that in 1851 Mary Turner was widowed and living in st pancras with sons William and John. her age is put at 51 and I dont know if there were any other children from the marriage which may confirm the correct branch ofTurners
As for Alfred Joseph wouldnt Mary have been too old to have a baby? Could it have been her grandchild........Lynne

margarets 1861 census is interesting as it says mary was liiving with John still unmarried and a widow age 62 so your 1851 quite possible I could not find anyone n the census when I tried

I am off to bed now

Ann

Thanks Ann I'm going to bed too just had one last check before switching off
Goodnight
Lynne

This could be his birth.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about John Turner
Name: John Turner
Year of Registration: 1838
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Pancras (1837-1901)
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1
Page: 214

Thanks Ann,
On 1861 Census Johns mother is shown as widowed.
I have now been given Johns marriage certificate which states his fathers residence at time of marriage - DEC 1861 as Holkham, Norfolk. No mention of him being deceased - was this usual practice?
Still looking for any brothers or sisters of John please.

Is this any good?

HENRY TURNER Pedigree
Male Family


Marriages:
Spouse: MARY ANN CLARKE HODGSON Family
Marriage: 21 AUG 1838 Saint Anne Soho, Westminster, London, England

Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.

Can we sort out some of this info please?

John Turner 1838 born Pancras?

Father Henry Turner age? where born.

Henry's wife Mary Ann born when and where please?

Tell us what you do know.

Born in1838 in St Pancras John Turner married Adah Buck living in Holkham, Norfolk they moved to London later on. ( I have their childrens names etc)
Adah was born 1838 Holkham, her father was Jonathon Buck b. Holkham abt 1778
Johns father was Henry, a Cabinet Maker. Possibly born in London area late 1700's.
Anything else has been through these posts above. I was only given the marriage certificate of John and Adah today.
Sorry cant be more informative.

So this is the marriage you have.

Name: John Turner
Year of Registration: 1861
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Walsingham
County: Norfolk
Volume: 4b
Page: 857


Adah Buck 1861 Walsingham Norfolk
John Turner 1861 Walsingham Norfolk

1841 England Census
about Adah Buck
Name: Adah Buck
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Gender: Female
Where born: Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Holkham
Hundred: North Greenhoe
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Walsingham
Sub-registration district: Wells
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Jonathan Buck 60
Elizth Buck 45
Willm Cumo Buck 13
Katherine Buck 11
Fredrick Buck 8
Adah Buck 4


1851 England Census
about Adah Buck
Name: Adah Buck
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1838
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Jonathon
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Holkham, Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Holkham
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Walsingham
Sub-registration district: Fakenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 109
Household Members: Name Age
Jonathon Buck 69
Elizabeth Buck 54
Catherine Jane Buck 21
Adah Buck 13


1861 England Census
about Ada Buck
Name: Ada Buck
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1838
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Holkham, Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Holkham
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Walsingham
Sub-registration district: Wells
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 53
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Buck 68
Catharine J Buck 31
Ada Buck 23

1891 England Census
about John Turner
Name: John Turner
Age: 53
Estimated birth year: abt 1838
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Adah
Gender: Male
Where born: Refenk Pope, Middlesex, England
WHERE BORN SHOULD BE REGENTS PARK MIDDX AND NOT WHAT IS TRANSCRIBED.
Civil parish: Croydon
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: Elementry School Teacher

Registration district: Croydon
Sub-registration district: Croydon
ED, institution, or vessel: 59
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Turner 53
Adah Turner 53
Ada M Turner 27
Elizabeth E Turner 23
Edith E Turner 21
Agustus Turner 19
Gertrude Turner 17
Mary Turner 15
Ethel Turner 11

Yes Mel,
I have got the Buck family but I have not got the Turner family. I was told by a family member they thought Johns father was also called John and that threw me - later on I found out Turner Snr was in fact Henry, a cabinet maker and obviously this is confirmed on Johns marriage certificate. As I said any other info has been given me by helpful folk yesterday, so I presume Henry married Mary but what of their children - I assumeJohn wasnt an only child?
Lynne